Urgent - Fallen Blue Dog

11 years, 9 months ago by Captain Blue Dog in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Hanumatpresaka Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances.  All glories to Srila Prabhuada.

I have several questions that I am curious about.

If a fallen dog were aspiring for some time, following your instruction, 4-regs strictly, 16 rounds, mangala, etc., then either has sex with their wife not for procreation or -messes around in self-abuse- but afterward continue following, have they fallen down completely or is there still hope for them?  Does the 6 months until being a formal aspirant start from when they started following, or from after they fell down and continued following?

If a fallen dog was once renounced, in this life or previously, and they decide to marry, can they still attain the favor of Guru and Gauranga after falling down?  If someone could be renounced, but they have a desire to marry, are they foolish and fallen?  If someone has attachment to women, are they too fallen for initiation?  Any advice for thinking of Krishna 100% so that thoughts of women do not occur and attachment to them can go away?

If someone has severe pain or surgery or similar, is it a fall down to take pain medicine because it is also an intoxicant?

Many things are said about chanting while driving or in a car.  Is it okay to chant in a car, or are their circumstances where it is okay?

Any advice to help with thinking of others in a service mood instead of thinking selfishly?  Sometimes even we can do service for Krishna for our own benefit, with thoughts like "I will go to mangala arati for Guru Maharaja, because he instructed me to and to please him.  And because I very much want initiation so that I can begin spiritual life and begin trying to love Krishna and His servants."  That desire could be selfish, thinking of ourselves, our benefit, our purification, our advancement in Krishna consciousness, our relationship with Krishna, our ability to love Krishna due to having the seed of bhakti lata.  But I feel it may be bad to think of ourselves in that way.  Please give instruction on this point, is it better to approach all service thinking "I will go to mangala arati for Guru Maharaja, to please him and Gauranga in the association of His devotees." and not for ourselves as above?

How can we center our thoughts on serving others instead of ourselves?  I feel like my desire to serve Krishna and have a relationship with Him could be selfish and greedy.  Who am I to say I am qualified to serve Krishna, or His servant or even the servant of His servant?  How could I ever expect to please Him when no matter what I do is tiny compared to His reciprocation?  Anything I do feels insignificant, and I lament that I have material desires and do not feel qualified to serve.

"In the course of traversing the universal creation of Brahmā, some fortunate soul may receive the seed of bhakti-latā, the creeper of devotional service. This is all by the grace of guru and Kṛṣṇa." (Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Madhya 19.151)

From this text we see that it is only by the grace of Guru and Krishna that we can receive the seed of bhakti-lata.  Not by our own efforts or desires.  Please kindly instruct and correct us so that we may have your grace, and so that we refrain from thinking it is by some effort of our own that we could possibly receive such mercy.

"Kṛṣṇa will surely protect me and give me help for the successful execution of devotional service."

Yes, as much as I am in anxiety that I cannot be qualified to serve, I do not doubt that Krishna will protect me and give me help to serve Him.  I feel enthusiastic to serve Him, but I am a fallen dog.

"Devotional service is so pure and perfect that once having begun, one is forcibly dragged to ultimate success. Sometimes a person will give up his ordinary material engagements and out of sentiment take shelter of the lotus feet of the Supreme Lord and thus begin the preliminary execution of devotional service. Even if such an immature devotee falls down, there is no loss on his part. On the other hand, what is the gain of one who executes the prescribed duties according to his varṇa and āśrama but does not take to devotional service? Although a fallen devotee may take his next birth in a low family, his devotional service will nonetheless resume from where it left off."

This exerpt from NOI 3 is one I have refered to several times for solace.  We may have taken birth in a low family this time, we may have fallen down, but our service will resume.  It answers many of my questions above, but hearing submissively from Guru is also encouraging.  Please kindly instruct and correct our misconceptions.

I am also trying to be patient, but I struggle with patience.  Krishna seems so far away, even though He is so close.  I have not entered into His family yet.

Aspiring to be your servant,
Captain Blue Dog

ASA (Buck White) - AGTSP.  paoho.  Honey-chil' you got too many questions on yur scrambled brain!!!!   We just started scann'n them after numbr' six!

1) Yes, six months of following strictly you can be a FORMAL ASPIRANT.

Six months more first initiation.

ONe year more minimum mum mum and you can go on the altar and touch the Lord. . . Smoke a joint! Go to jail!... . .  Or at least you must follow the process for one year before you go back on the altar and touch the Deity.

This has practical effect.

If you get initiated, touch the Deities, and you are not ready then. Zing!   BiNg!!  Zong... Your material desires will INCREASE!   And you will go down in a ball of fire!
   So, fix you mind upon following.
And then send in shorter reports with a question for each one report!

O.K?      Colonel Pink Pig! !!!       YOur fallen servant.

DTC Th(10)

11 years, 9 months ago by hps in DTC

AGTSP

paoho

It's 6.53PM here in ISKCON (ASA) Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Darker than the inside of a goat outside. Fall has come very quickly in the past few days. It's very depressing because we are alone without another human, what to speak of spiritual, being insight, just the lights of cars passing on the main road and the Sushi Barn and Gas station.

Our memory doesn't always enliven us because we do a lot of little things everyday on different projects, so sometimes it seems that we aren't doing anything for Srila Prabhupada. When we stop and make a list it seems that we are doing something. Of course it is nothing like the really great devotees in ISKCON, but we are aspiring to make a real, unique contribution still.

Hare Krsna.

Our regular Sadhana will save us.

Now we will stop for Gayatri.  Ommmm....

We caught up with the mail to one week ago. We almost caught up with our BhVai reading. Is very very nice chapter, INstructions OF MAharama PRthu. Really it seems like more than one week to go through it and to really appreciate the purports and content would take at least a month of daily classes. Prabhupada especially noted this chapter out of all of our literature for understanding political science.

O.K. Gayatri: At 7.15PM we go with Nitai-gaurasundara and Mataji and maybe Abhiseka to Visnu carana Das' parents house for some evening program. We made very satisfying offerings to Lord Nrsmha deva today. We are learning to prepare the Bhoga better.

Bh. Daniel came by and bought $38 of books.  We talked with Laksmana agra Ja by telefone in Peru for 20-minutes. We listened to M. Urmilla DD's Hawaii class and did our own powerpoint show for tommorrow. It is in the Archives as sb 1.8.45.

Hari Bolo!!!  Now we shall merge into the Mystical Mantras, and have nice Kirtan at VCD parents house w/ NGD MMD and Abhiseka and Syama gopal Das and his wife. They are millionaires I think. Of course Krsna is a $1,000000000000000000000... aire.

Mangala

11 years, 9 months ago by Bhakta David II in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to your mercy.

Maharaja, the past 2 1/2 weeks I have been 5-15 minutes late to Mangala arati. I find it harder to get up with the cold and with a temperature sensitivity due to health issues. I am thinking maybe I should try to get up closer to 3 AM instead of 3:30-3:45? If I still have this same job during Kartik, I will need to wake around 2:30-3 AM in order to chant Damodarastakam in the morning in the ashram, as normally that is after Guru Puja and I am at work at that time. Another problem I have had for the past year is only being able to rest 4 hours or less, sometimes 2-3 hours. I try to rest, but it takes an hour or two or more sometimes. 6 hours would be enough. Maybe someday 2 hours will be enough, but I am not there yet. I tend to go to Sandhya arati and afterward finish rounds if I haven't completed, or sometimes extra rounds or talking with devotees. Then after that the mind wants to keep going. My mentor advised to start winding down around 7:30 PM, not go to Sandhya, maybe read for an hour and bed by 8:30. Bed by 9 and sleep by 9:30 would make 3:30 AM work for waking.

               HpS - AGTSP.  "http://vedabase.com/en/sb/3/26/30" has a nice discussion about sleep.

I'm trying to manage my time between morning program until 6:30 AM, work 7-4, finish rounds, dinner, etc. As I find ways to manage time better, I hope to find more time to read... the mind has trouble focusing when reading often, but it is all so much nectar so I want to read more and more. So far I've read your book recommendations except for Prabhupada Lilamrta (LoB, NOI, Biography of Lord Chaitanya,Your Ever Well Wisher, and also re-read SoSR). I am starting on Srimad Bhagavatam and will shortly also start on Prabhupada Lilamrta, reading both side by side. I also may read a little Radha Damodara Vilasa in-between to hear of the pastimes of Their Lordships, though that isn't the focus of the book, Their pastimes are there and I want to hear.

Please forgive my lack of focus and attention on Krsna. I am failing so much but I am determined to try to improve, if by your mercy I am able. Gradually my mind is thinking less of other things, but it still has so many distractions. Somehow or other, it is my hope that by your mercy I will someday be able to think of Krsna cent percent of the time and no longer have disruptions of other thoughts.

I contacted the Houston temple and am working out arrangements for a place to stay. It may be a bit expensive for me with no ashram, but we will see how it works out. I hope to have your association soon! "The verdict of all revealed scriptures is that by even a moment's association with a pure devotee, one can attain all success." CC Madhya 22.54

I am excited... Kartik is soon, Lord Damodara's month! I miss spending Kartik at Gita Nagari...

HpS - AGTSP. Paoho. Just getting a little of your association it seems that you have a very disturbed mental condition. You seem to be very intelligent, but maybe harrassed by ghostly influences from previous life. This is challenging, but it also have incredible results when you overcome this. So, keep looking for good local asociation of devotees who can advise you from personal contact with you.

Bhaktin Zareth sadhana report

11 years, 9 months ago by zareth bhaktin in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Hare Krishna Dear Gurumaharaja AGTSP! PAMHO!

Chanting 16 rounds and following four principles, now living in the temple, getting up to Mangalaratik every day, trying to serve Srila Prabhupada by his devotees, longing in my heart that one day the Sadhana and service becomes a spontaneous activity by Sri Krishna ...

I continue studying languages ​​and weekends working in the boutique of the temple, making a variety of services including help Raja Bhoga, dress Srila Prabhupada, food for life and entertaining, among others. Now study the Bhagavad Gita, the guide Upadesambrta and CPI, every night I read the Book Krishna with my ashram mates, so dreaming about the pastimes of Govinda and not with our minds ... well, that desire.

After two months of living in the ashram I am experiencing many accomplishments that have come for their blessings, Every step I'm living and noting that without Krishna consciousness all achievements made ​​in the material world, but is accompanied by a good Sadhana and good rounds is hardly a good service to Srila Prabhupada.

I have no good qualities and I have no opulence at all, the only thing I carry is with a young body but even with energy, if it allows me to serve you, I will make it impossible for this body is determined to serve the ISKCON movement Srila Prabhupada!!!!

Thanks for being my inspiration every morning, noon and night, my heart trembles for soon you will be in the temple of Sri Sri Radha Madan Gopala.

His slow servant Zareth Bhaktin.

HpS - Hare Krsna.  Thank you for giving your live to Krsna. What you are doing is love. You are one of Krsna's lovers, but, yes, it is just beginning to wake up, but it is there. How can you live in the Temple unless you have some love for Krsna and Krsna has some love for you???

We will be in Mexico in 5

DAYS
21
HOURS
16
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We look forward to seeing you then!!!!

sonrisas y mas sonrisas

All Glories to SRILA PRABHUPADA

Jay Gouranga! 

Please accept my humble obeisance

Hare Krishna Maharaj

Yes shanto maharaj thats him , yes he is currently in Panama , my reverences to you maharaj. Oh so your plans changed i am sorry to hear that maharaja ,i will try to make it to chile for the time youll be there im saving laskmi ,about the sarkintan movement here well there was a time when there was one but not anymore we distribute to central america  , a few yoga events and few events where devotee do sankirtan but there isnt a movement here .

haribol 

Bhakta Juanka

HpS - AGTSP....  Yes, the Sankirtana comes and goes in the material world. That is the nature of the material world. It is hard to fine anything good here, what to speak of something SPIRITUAL, but we can make the commitment of doing Sankirtana to the best of our abiltiy according to our nature, and realizing austerities to increase our ability, no????

Our respects to Maharaja! Who else is there in Pa Na Ma???