Letters to the editor

Hare Krsna Gurudeva:

Thanks for your answer, Gurumaharaja you put this:

Yes, I make mistakes, the President makes mistakes, but also disciples don't tell us that they are breaking principles or even if they do they refuse our advice and still go on acting as Brahmanas.

Question: What is your advice??? 16 enthusiastic rounds 4p anything else??

and in which way those devotees still go an acting as brahmanas??? that for me is not clear¡¡¡ 

You mean doing pujari? giving lectures?? 

thank u gurudeva , hope that next time i see you i will be  better ¡¡ thanks a lot for your response that was firm and tender as always

ys

more less sad monkey 

HpS - ASA ---  AGTSP paoho.  Happy Prabhupada Appearance day!    Yes, they go on doing Puja, lecturing and giving their association to innocent people who don't know what is their conscsiousness.
My personal discipline as I understand our Acharya's wishes is 1. Japa, 16-enthusiatic rounds (gayatris), 2. four principles strictly,  3. Full Morning (Evening) Program. Can be as simple as up by 4am, little puja (flower or even mental) for our Deities, Gurv astakam, Kirtan, Srimad Bhagavatam 4. Sankirtan!!!   (so Much fuN).    We struggle to do this and many times the only immediate result of our effort is freedom from suffering and keeping some hamony in our life. But we see that everywhere in this world there is chaos. We don't need to hate anybody because whoever is bad is suffering. So best thing to do is to try help them. If we just try in our little, little way in spite of our lust, to do something, then at the end of the week we can always see tangible results. 97% is Krsna's mercy!
Detailed advice we get from people who know us. Even intelligent enemies.
Ha!   Ha!    Hare!!!  Go ahead with your life. . .      One who does good is never overcome by evil.

Por favor acepte nuestras respetuosas reverencias! 
Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!
Querido Gurumaharaja: 
Muchas gracias por Su respuesta. 
Comunicare formalmente a las autoridades del Templo de Su transbordo en México en las fechas y horarios señalados. 
Entendemos que ha sido una gira con muchos viajes y también grandes logros para Srila Prabhupada, oramos para que Su salud sea siempre bendecida. Respetuosamente  necesitamos preguntarle si existen las siguientes posibilidades:  
Lunes 7 : 
7:00pm 
Es posible clase del Bhagavad Gita en el Templo o considera mejor clase del Srimad Bhagavatam , 7:30 am del día martes 8  ? ? 

Martes 8 
Annada Ekadasi 
10:00 am - 2:30 pm. 
Humildemente solicitamos tener un día de Su asociación vapuh con discípulos y aspirantes acompañados de Krsna Katha, japa y prasadam.
Proponemos hacer una breve salida al Parque Nacional Desierto de Los Leones, a 35 minutos aproximadamente del Templo. Es un lugar de esparcimiento y recreación, con hectáreas de bosques, etc. 
En el siglo XVII allí se instaló un convento de la orden Carmelitas descalzos destinado a retiro y meditación cristiana, pero ya no funciona como tal. 

Por supuesto también podemos ir a Chapultepec o reunirnos en casa de Gopi Radha dd. 

Es Martes Ekadasi, así que esperamos Sus instrucciones para saber como honrar ese día de la mejor manera por favor. 
Sobre nuestros deseos personales siempre está en primer lugar Su salud y cualquier proyecto de predica. 
Por favor disculpe nuestras ofensas. 

Vuestra eterna aspirante a sirviente : 
Asta Sakhi dd

Hare Krsna respected Gurudeva:

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada 

Please accept my humble obeisances

I am using a nick name due to I really need privacy,  i understand that you as a sanyassi needs protection, I mean not having alone talks with women, but i will not comfortable to talk my personal things in front of another men, and i am absolutely sure that ALL women think like me.....

I am wrting because I have at least 3 female friends that have the same experience that I had... and the 3 of us.. now are really sad and without utsahan really dissapointed, we can not feel the same as before... the point is that we do not feel protected... some so called  "prabhus" do not respected us... (while i am writing this i think i did not act also properly) , but in my case i was being lied...  I think that when we have a couple at least we deserve respect and I did not receive that, i believed all the things that he told me.. the 3 of us can not understand how fast they are in a new relationships

the 3 of us see machismo on this movement, we try to be transparent and sincere telling you what we did, the mistakes that we made, then we see "prabhus" doing abhishek in the temples and we feel betrayed, we do not see justice... we do not understand why krsna allows this to happen..

Our selfesteem is afected, we spent money in therapists, and the worst thing we do not feel the same as before, we do not have faith in the movement in the process, personally the 2 of us are not chanting rounds , we see many many devotees who drifted apart from the movement.. and now we can understand why

personally i would like to take some time and drift apart some time to heal... because i am really affected.. i do not want to continue if i do not feel the same i do not want to be hypocrit and being in a place in which i do not feel comfortable or supported

i know that you have lots of problems that are caused for some of us, who do not deserve you as a Guru, but at this point i guess that you are just a friend of us...which is an honor for us

i can say that you are the only person in iskcon who i respect and trust... now i feel not comfortable doing something that does not complete me... I feel really sad because i can not believe that this bad experience is taking away the little advancement that i did.. nehabikramo nato sti....also i remembered that you said in one class that sp said "once you come to krsna you will never get away".... please do not let me go

please forgive all my offenses

your eternal servant

sadmonkey

HpS - ASA - We just spent 15-minutes writing an answer to your good letter and then the computer lost it all. We try again.  First, in the highest sense this movment although for Life Members who may be eatiing chicken and drinking beer, is really only for the paramahamsas (NOI). That means that we never ask ANYTHING from Krsna. NOTHING, because we realize it is a super, super insult. He is already 16-times more conscious of our suffering than we are. He took a vow that everyone of the people who tried to desnude Draupadi would see their own wives with their hair open as widows.
So, forget your personal distress. What does Krsna need. Obvious. He needs sacrifice. 16-good rounds, and then immediately you are back at 100%!   "Ooops, I forgot Krsna".

Yes, I make mistakes, the President makes mistakes, but also disciples don't tell us that they are breaking principles or even if they do they refuse our advice and still go on acting as Brahmanas. We are dealing with these problems right now with arguments about who should be iniciated or not.

This is all preparation f​or the next drama. There are many universes and Krsna needs Draupadis for all of them. Are you strong enough to play that role. Can you keep your vows and also see how Krsna is using you in the midst of catastrophy. Of course when we fall down from our side how can we put all the blame on Krsna for the reaction. We have to become stronger from both our correct austerities and the mistakes we make.

The real question is not whether Draupadi will have to face public humiliation or not but whether she will be able to keep the 99-saris or not, no?

Joking, but very serious sub-text. Can you laugh in the face of Maya and pick up the pieces and go ahead never giving up on Krsna?

Jaya Sri Krsna!

Esteemed Professor Samaresh Bandyopadhyay et al,

We just got back from the jungles of Peru. On the coast, where Lima is, the country is completely dust and desert except for the several rivers coming out of the Andes.

One of the most important aspects that we can see of global help is the development of more agrarian based communities. Tarapoto, where we went is the best option that we have seen so far in Peru area. It is over the Andes, on the skirts of the Amazon jungle, with agriculture of all kinds, a popular tourist spot with several very nice ISKCON devotees living there for many years. It was our first time there and a very rewarding experience. About 15-other devotees and friends also flew there to pass the six day visit with us. The internet connection was one small step above zero so a lot of our work got a little delayed, but it was very refreshing for our beleaguered body.

Now back in Lima we are in our last days here and also preparations for the Janmastami festival.

This afternoon we go from Chosica, about one hour drive, to Lima for a meeting with the heads of the Jungian and Freudian psychology societies, Miguel Polo, our friend from San Marcos University, and Oscar Natars and his wife Anna who are the internationally decorated cinema directors with whom we have been working.

We will camp overnight at our simple center in Lima and then give a morning Bhagavatam class and then visit Dr. Ramon Mujica, Director of the National Library, for breakfast. After that back to Chosica and almost non-stop programs for the Janmastami and Srila Prabhupada avir-bhava mahotsava on Sunday.

Monday off to Mexico for two nights, then one night in Houston, then two in Atlanta and then ... then ... then three months at our base in Tennessee with Dr. Ravi!

Our attitude toward these meetings with this wonderful Peruvian men is that we have reached the limit of our efforts. If they see any use for us then we can contribute but we have no more strength left to push any more programs. What we and they have been suggesting is a bigger program in 2016, inviting yourself and Mrs. Bandyopadhyay to come as guests of the National Library with very strong programs with different historical and cultural societies with adequate advertising to drawn participation from scholarly as well as student population as well as the Indian community and Ambassador here.

We can continue to give them more perspective on such themes as Jung and the Kundalini Lectures, but really within the perspective of our real expertise, the Gandharva Veda of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Srila Rupa Goswami.

1. We sent the letter to Dr. Tapati Mukherjee finally with a copy to your good self. His address and phone number that we have are:

PROF. DR. TAPATI MUKHERJEE
DIRECTOR,RABINDRA BHAVAN, VISWA BHARATI
SHANTI NIKETAN, INDIA,  . . . .

2. We are attaching the link to the writing work that we have been doing. It is very much in the spirit of Prof. C. S. Lewis's "Chronicles of Narnia" or "Peter Pan", juvenile fiction, that is also palatable for adults who have also disliked growing up. We really feel very motivated to write like this and any comments that you can make will certainly be extremely important for us. Jack London said that before we can write anything worth publishing we have to write 100,000 words of trash first, so start writing trash: www.jayarama.us/archives/tpp-cb21.docx

3. We tried to attach our 'Inauguration Address' for the Book Release Ceremony but the e-mail won't do it, so we put it on our web-site at: www.jayarama.us/archives/Book-release-hps-address.docx

4. I think we planned on trying to talk by phone on Sunday and it still seems the most possible. We will try by 9PM your hour at the latest.

5. We have not heard from the Mumbai, Pradhan. We hope that he has also been able to make some progress in assembling the list of possible consumers for Bharatiya-sanskriti and the wonderful Felicitations volume.

We are keeping good health for our age but of course our energy is a little fragile.

Thank you so, so, so much for your association and friendship.

HpSwami

AGTSP!
Paoho.

We just posted the latest and greatest NOI-afterwords at:
www.jayarama.us/archives/tpp-cb21.docx

Your comments and criticisms greatly appreciated.

Querido Gurudev: Pamho. TgSP y sus seguidores fieles.

HpS - ASA - Jaya!

Espero que se encuentre bien al recibir este mensaje. Nosotros por aquí bien gracias a Dios.

Seguimos tratando de asimilar la filosófia y hacer que forme parte de nuestra vida. Este verano hemos utilizado las vacaciones para aumentar nuestra asociación con los devotos y, en consecuencia, con Krisna. Como ya sabe estuvimos en Radhadesh, con Avesa Y Adiras, y varias veces en NVMandala (Festival del Santo Nombre, Festival de la Vaca, etc). Tambien iremos para Janmastami. Es agradable estar en los Festivales con los devotos. Tambien hicimos un programa en Navala Kunda con Yadunandana Maharaja. Vinieron devotos rusos, pero la mayoria de los devotos eran del Templo y congregación de Madrid, entre ellos Dandava y Carcika, Jara Mara y Marta, Janardana y esposa, etc. Pienso que fue un sintoma de que la cooperación entre Madrid y Navalakunda será el estribillo de nuestra aportación a ISKCON. A la hora del prasadam eramos unos cuarenta. Le mando algunas fotos para que las vea.

HpS - Que pasa con el proyecto de los Grhastha Ashramas al lado de Naval Kunda? Como se llama el devoto? Tengo su imagen pero no su nombre???

Lo mas resaltante de mi vida espiritual es que mantengo un gran deseo de ser un buen devoto y ayudar en la misión de Srila Prabhupada. Él me salvo del infierno y ahora vivo cerca de los planetas celestiales. Pero SP no está contento con eso y quiere que nos volvamos devotos puros para ser útiles de verdad. Así que ese es nuestro negocio. Así que mi tiempo esta repartido entre "La Misión", la familia, el trabajo y mi mente.

Espero que cuando vuelva a España (Goura Purnima?) podamos visitar Navala Kunda y se aprecien ya cambios importantes.

Sin mas se despide

su sirviente ( o al menos aspirante)

Jayanta das