Adding to Monkey/Tom Browns' discussion on Vaiṣṇava/Vaiṣṇavī

8 years, 8 months ago by srinivasacarya in Special Category A, Hot Topics

Respected Gurumahārājā,

Hare Kṛṣṇa. Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. All glories to Srīla Prabhupāda.

I was reading how mother Yaśodā becomes struck with wonder when she sees the entire universe in baby Kṛṣṇa's mouth.  http://www.vedabase.com/en/sb/10/8/43. Then I saw the word Vaiṣṇavīm in a later verse that was used to refer to yoga-māyā. That reminded me of Monkey/Bhakta Tom’s post here: http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/node/6920 and thought I would share some of my findings on the topic.

Vaīṣṇava (masculine) and Vaiṣnavī(feminine)

The word Vaiṣṇava literally means one whose worshipable lord is Viṣṇu. Based on the sūtra sāsya devatā, the suffix a[ṇ] is applied after Viṣṇu which eventually gives the word Vaiṣṇava through various grammatical rules. This is a masculine word. By adding a suffix ī[p] we get Vaiṣṇavī the equivalent feminine word for Vaiṣṇava. Srīla Jīva Gosvāmī, in his grammar book, Harināmāmṛta Vyākaraṇa, uses the word Vaiṣṇavī a few times and he means a female Vaiṣṇava.

Some of the examples are:

  1. Male and female who thinks he/she is a Vaiṣṇava
    1. Vaiṣṇavam <2.1, object form of Vaiṣṇava> + man eventually becomes Vaiṣṇava-mānī (“one who thinks himself a Vaiṣṇava”)
    2. Vaiṣṇavīm <2.1, object form of Vaiṣṇavī> + man enventually becomes Vaiṣṇava-māninī(“one who thinks herself a Vaiṣṇavī”)
  2. In one of the compound word examples we find Vaiṣṇava-bhāryaḥ.  The commentator elaborates that the vigraha(separation of the constituent words) of Vaiṣṇava-bhāryaḥ is Vaiṣṇavī bhāryā yasya (“one whose wife is a Vaiṣṇavī”).
  3. In another example we see atithir Vaiṣṇavī (“the female Vaiṣṇava guest”).
  4. From a philosophical point of view, Jiva Gosvāmī doesn’t assume that everyone in their present condition is already a Vaiṣṇava. This I say because he gives examples such as vaiṣṇavī-kṛtya (“having made into a Vaiṣṇava). Other examples that show gradation among Vaiṣṇavas using the word vaiṣṇava in a compound are eka- vaiṣṇavaḥ (“the best Vaiṣṇava”), purāṇa- vaiṣṇavaḥ (“an old vaiṣṇava”), kevala- vaiṣṇavaḥ (“A pure vaiṣṇava”)

Ātman, a masculine word

However I didn’t find any examples for the masculine word ātman in feminine gender. Monier William’s dictionary says that the masculine word is used as a reflexive pronoun in all three genders and gives the example ātmānam(masculine object form) sā (feminine subject she) hanti (verb strikes).

One of the main things is that in Sanskrit, the gender doesn’t really mean the literal gender. For example tree (vṛkṣaḥ) is masculine and creeper(latā) is feminine. However when it comes to the names of humans and the pronouns used for them there are masculine and feminine words matching the genders. I find ātman an exception but there are feminine words like yoginī, brāhmanī, gopī whose masculine forms are yogī, brāhmaṇa and gopa. Vaiṣṇava and Vaiṣṇavī are in the similar category.

Your insignificant servant

Srinivasacarya dasa

ASA - Tom Brown, PhD  ---  Thank you very much Srinivasa-acharya Das. We saw many cases of Vaisnavi in the Vedabase.com, and except for like three these refered to Durga, Yoga-maya, like the citation above. The others seem that may be coming from a little tinge of the bodily concept of life.
What is the Sanskrit for Canakhya Pandita's statement that one should see every woman except for his wife as Mataji?

Sanskrit for kids, Santiago Chile.

Dear Maharaj:

Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I hope you´re very well. We are very happy, working in our projects;

HpS - Hare Krsna!   Was Arjuna happy in the Battle of Kuruksetra.  It is humorous, no? Lot of violence against us and even from us in this material world, but happy in some details and happy in the broad view! Thank you.

Visvanath is organizing the temple´s festival, which has been very beautiful.

Since 3 months ago, I started to use the sanskrit set with the kids in the temple here in Santiago, Chile.

Because I live too far and I haven´t had more time, we are doing it every 2 Sundays; the reception has been very enthusiastic even with non-devotees kids.

The program starts with chanting mantras and then I do a small yoga class so the kids can move some, also I teach them some pranayamas so they can be more receptive for the sanskrit class. We end with simple prasada (fruits, sandwich or what the parents brings).

I´ve adapted some activities so they can be funnier for the kids, because we have a large range of age, from 3 to 13 years old. Nevertheless, I always guide myself by the books. It has been a great challenge to do this service as it´s difficult to have all the kids attention for 1 ½ hrs, but they always seems very happy and anxious to learn more sanskrit, besides they love to write in devanagari!

Please Maharaj, we need your blessings so the program keeps working, improving and giving fruits. There´s a lot to do and learn!

Your aspiring servant

Gita Vali dasi

HpS - I think you sent this letter before, no?   Well, it is a very good letter and worth reading twice.  We are trying to start the Sanskirt studies here in Tennessee, but have been waiting for a lesson plan from India which gives some little more organization to the Teacher's Study Guide.

Mama nama Hanunat Swami. Bhavatiya nama kim?

Bhakti sastri campina grande

8 years, 8 months ago by [email protected] in Personal Sadhana Reports

Todas las Glorias a Sri Sri Gaura Nitay todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Querido Gurudeva,por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias.

Espero que se encuentre muy bien en su servicio a Srila Prabhupada.

Le escribo para decirle que en este tiempo que llevo estudiando aqui en bhakti sastri conoci a un discipulo de S.S Guru Prasad Swami que es parte del grupo de sankirtana de Aravinda prabhu de Mexico su nombre es Jala Dharaka das y comence a relacionarme con el con el permiso de S.S Dhanvantari y tenemos la invitacion para ir aMexico a hacer el maraton de diciembre .

Vamos a estar bajo el cuidado de Aravinda prabhu haciendo servicio para el colegio, quisiera saber cual es su opinion y pedir sus bendiciones para continuar mis estudios y  mejorar mi servicio a usted y mi conciencia. 

Hare krsna.  

María Bernarda

HpS - ASA ---- Hare Krsna. Del contenido de su carta, todo aparece bien, muy bien. 16-rondas entusiastas, 4-principios estrictos .... happy life.   Usualmente es bueno esperar para nivel de segunda iniciacion para entrar en Grhastha Ashrama. Primero --- yo soy serviente de Krsna. El banco paga yo trabjo.   Segunda --- Yo soy guardiano, administrativo, cajero ...  Nuestra naturaleza de Varna ashrama dharma es mas claro.  Soy mujer ksatriya, tengo que ser casado con un Varon Ksatriya.

He oido que Prabhupada dijo si la chica es mas mayor que la chica es guarantizado ser un fracaso.

Pero somos por distancia. Tiene buen consejeros por alla!!   Hare Krsna!!

Urgente

8 years, 8 months ago by YugalaKD in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Hk Paoho querido Guru Maharaja eso significa que Ud. seguira siendo el examinador, eso sería una gran noticia, y dependeríamos de ASA, y ASA a su vez de ese organismo que menciona, por favor aclare mis dudas?

Hari bolo

Su hija que lo adora:

Yugala Kishora Dasi

HpS - AgtSP. Paoho. No entiendo muy bien su pregunta. Pero no somos Examinador mas para BhS diploma. Los Oficiales para BhS Diploma tiene que ser eligido por GBC y-o Consejo Nacional, aun Nimsar puede ofrecer sus propositos, claro.

Hay otro opciones, pero es es el mejor.

o.k??

Kartika Tour - Chicago

8 years, 8 months ago by hps in Calendar Development


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On Fri, 10/7/16, Diego Tapia "etasahps"wrote:
Subject: Re: HpSwami - Kartika Tour. CHICAGO
Friday, October 7, 2016, 10:47 AM

Dear Gurudeva, My sincere apology for the delay.

HpS - Please excuse us for our delays.
  
EKD -  Please see the attached file. 

HpS - We did. It is very helpful.
 
EKD -  The schedule is 90% confirmed. You will notice that
 next to the programs are the possible topics you requested. Most of them are going to need some articulation from you  according to the audience we will have. Please, confirm which topic considering the info listed below so I can move forward with advertisement.

 1) City Colleges of
 Chicago, Truman: I think I mention this to you, but I have the support
  of the Wellness Center as well as the Psychology Coordinator O... R... They are excited about the content of your lecture
 and Jungian research,
  and at the same time they are
 interested in a program that can also include
  undergrad students. Topics such as
 Stress, Coping Strategies, and so on are very common on
 these classes and among students and coaches. I invited
 other faculty
  members to join us.      
 
HpS - Have you looked at the Video Clips from the program in Peru????   Go to www.youtube.com and search with the Key Phrase "Psychology and the Sacred 2016". That shows what we are doing and is great to use as a promo for the professors. Best thing is for us to talk to the sponsors. Can we get a conference call some time??? 
  
 2) Second City training center: When I talked to the head of acting Mr Pieper, about your lecture,
 I remarked the common subjects  your lectures have with the concepts they teach in class.
 In fact, this how they advertise the program
 : This  program offers a unique method of acting that enables
 students to discover skills found in the physical,
 emotional, intellectual and spiritual aspects of the human
 condition.
 Therefore they also are very excited
 about the content of your lecture and Jungian
  research, although I did not propose any title for the
 event yet until you decide what topic you want to articulate
 for this audience. May be you can address this from NOI or
 othe SP Book. They also will make it open to
 all instructors and
  students. 
 
 HpS - Again if we can get a conference call we can do this very fast. One thing that might interest them would be the comparison and contrast between classical India drama theory (Rupa Goswami) and Western theory through Aristotle, Constantin Stanislavskii, and Viola Spolin.
  
 3)
 Interfaith: We are sure that we will gather our
 guests together that
 day,
  but I am still working where. Probably it is going to
 happen in our temple. On the other hand, although the topic
 says "Education...", you can also decide to change
 it, as long as we have 15 days to share with them what is
 going to be about they will have
  the chance to prepare them selves. Personally I
 was thinking about this program as an opportunity to
 share with them what is our vision about the topic and to
 find common points among the institutions, but again, we
 can propose another topic since we are the
  host.     
 
HpS - A nice topic is: "What is an Educated Man? The Teacher as the Mid-wife of the Soul". Is that O.K??
 
 4)
 IIT: This program is at the Krsna house, and will be
 mostly indian engineer and tech students looking for
 prasadam, so whatever the topic
  is, they will get some purification on the process of
 hearing from you. Now, I inviter formally Professor Arlen Moller,
  PhD
 Associate Professor,
 Dept. of Psychology, IIT, to
  your lecture at the KH so we may have the chance
 to establish some serious contact with faculty and make
 the program worth it for future preaching
 purposes.  
   
HpS - Topic ???   "Scratching the Surface - Cutting Edge Research in Accessing Classical Indian Technological Resources"

 Finally,
 those SB classes as well as the special class and Bhakti
 Vrksa are mere suggestions and subjected to change if you
 consider appropriate.
 
HpS -  They seem nice. We can adjust in terms of the exact audience that actually come.
 
 Please let
 me know what you think, 

HpS - We think it seems like a nice program, if you have  a case of NOIs!    What do you think of our comments?  Conference calls? 
 
 ys Etasa
 Krsna Das
 

Muy Urgente Urgente

8 years, 8 months ago by YugalaKD in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hk Paoho
Dear Gurudeva, we are with new life living in a new district for the apus, I say to the hills, I moved for work, I am a teacher of initial in a good school, I am learning a lot, how to assess, both teachers and students is very interesting, all computerized, working with the Department. d Psychology, the work environment is super, the director I know motivate and correct style reminds me of manual label devotees, and the pair'm struggling to make my spiritual life sometimes fails internet and communication is lost, I stay with my service in Chosica and as the schoolhouse. By the way I humbly ask that you have a document on the curricula of a Sunday school I send it, to perhaps implement and improve service, there are two devotees committed to part of me, and students varies, sometimes there inches and other much, there is much to be done.
On the other hand, we continue NIMSAR, I am still teaching BS online, sometimes it is very difficult to work in a group, remember when he says k the japa becomes more smooth, we were fortunate to speak with P. Mathuresa to be examiner BS for NIMSAR, and he accepted, and the administrator is Candra Mukhi, and I also wish to participate in this project. So there is a proposal NIMSAR without confirmed yet, but we hope will be accepted by NIMSAR, is a very respectable and kind person and I think he will do very well to the institution and will be well received by the authorities of our Yatra. You think of the idea. Please your blessings to do this project well.

Hk Paoho

Querido Gurudeva, estamos con nuevos aires viviendo en un nuevo distrito por los apus, digo los cerros, me mude por motivos laborales, soy profesora de inicial en un buen colegio, estoy aprendiendo mucho, la manera de evaluar, tanto a profesores y alumnos es muy interesante, todo computarizado, trabajan con del Dpto. d Psicología, el ambiente laboral es súper, la directora me sabe motivar y corregir con estilo, me recuerda al manual de etiqueta de los devotos, y a la par estoy luchando por hacer mi vida espiritual, a veces falla el internet y se pierde la comunicación, me mantengo con mi servicio en Chosica y como la escuelita. Por cierto le pido humildemente que de haber un documento sobre la curricula de una escuela dominical me la envíe, para poder tal vez aplicar y mejorar el servicio, hay dos devotos comprometidas a parte de mí, y el alumnado varia, a veces, hay poquitos y otras mucho, hay mucho por hacer.

Por otro lado, continuamos en NIMSAR, sigo enseñando BS on line, a veces, es muy difícil trabajar en grupo, recuerdo cuando dice k las japa se va haciendo más suave, tuvimos la fortuna de hablar con P. Mathuresa para que sea examinador BS para NIMSAR, y aceptó, y la administradora es Candra Mukhi, y yo también deseo participar de ese proyecto. Así que se trata de una propuesta de NIMSAR, sin confirma aun, pero esperamos sea aceptada por NIMSAR, es una persona muy respetable y amable y creo que le hará muy bien a la institución y será bien recibido por las autoridades de nuestro Yatra. Que le parece la idea. Por favor, su bendiciones para poder hacer bien este proyecto.

HpS - Gracias su carta!  Muy insipirador sus noticias. Ya somos registrado con la Board of Examiners de ISKCON para diplomas de Bh. Sastri como ISKCON Peru. Yo envie mi terminacion a Consejo Nacional y Board. Posible ASA, NIMSAR, puede ser registrado independent of  ISKCON Peru, pero en cualquiere situacion requiremos, esperamos, aprobacion del Consejo Nacional.

Trabajando en grupo es un arte, no?  NOI 4-6, 10!   Pero es preparacion para Vaikuntha!!