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8 years, 7 months ago by hps in DTC

Hare Krsna, Mates!

Back in Murfreesboro, our cave. NgD et al are still traveling. He gets back on Sunday. So we are alone here for a few days. Our pear tree and rose bush survived without daily watering. The car battery was dead, but a tow-truck was going right by so we screamed at him and ran after him and he started it and we gave him Gita, Banana chips and $20. He asked for $10. He was a real Christian.

Did we write about this yesterday??

We did a power-point show and posted it in the archives and sent the link on Twitter. www.jayarama.us/archives/Disneyland.pptx.

We have lost contact with Tamohara Das, our GBC, and Rama-giridhari Das, our MOE and Goloka-Education CEOs. Call repeatedly but no answer.  Nice letter from Karuna-Krsna Das. Now we hope to talk with him on the phone.

Letters here to the Blog are the center of all our communication. We try to post anything from any other source here also.

. .Hare Krsna. .

Actually we cannot say anything to anyone, preach to anyone. We can only offer the words of our Spiritual Master to them. So, unless we are in heartfelt communication with him, we have nothing to offer anyone else.

Hare Krsna, Hare Rama!

In 40-minutes is our Wednesday night Bh. Sastri workshop. The same books again and again, but deeper, deeper. See you there.

con't - Parampara

In con't from here http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/node/7161

 

Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

 

You wrote: “We investigate Srila Prabhupada. He is the current link in the Parampara. If we are satisfied that his extreme insistence on speaking and acting in the Paramapara is something that he requires from disciples and the Guru he accepted, then the series of links goes back quickely to Krsna.  That is the test, no? Do we actually have a direct experience of Krsna!?

http://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/18/75

Does our compound telescope give us a better view of the same God that we see with our naked eyes.”

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Guru Maharaja, I do not understand the above paragraph (specifically the highlighted text). Please, can you explain?

About your question of test, if I have a direct experience of Krsna? Hm,… it is a kind of difficult question. I could say I have a little bit of direct logic about Krsna. I see His hand around, hopefully. I read His words.

About BG 18.75 Sanjaya could hear Krsna talking. Question would be what is the difference of my hearing BG and Sanjaya's hearing Krsna? Or better question is what am I doing after hearing?

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In the purport it says: BG 18.75 p Nārada is the direct disciple of Kṛṣṇa and the spiritual master of Vyāsa.

And in next SB citations it says:

SB 1.6.29 p Therefore, according to authorized opinion, the birth of Nārada as the son of Brahmā is also a transcendental pastime. His appearance and disappearance are practically on the same level as that of the Lord. The Lord and His devotees are therefore simultaneously one and different as spiritual entities. They belong to the same category of transcendence.

SB 2.9.43 p Brahmājī, as a disciple of the Supreme Lord, received the real knowledge and imparted it to his dear disciple Nārada,…

SB Lord B6.5.22 p Lord Brahmā is the guru of Nārada Muni , who is the guru of Vyāsadeva,…


How to understand these statements of guru and disciple relationship between Krsna, Brahma and Narada? Is this the example of transparent medium and direct experience?

Thank you.

Your servant Namacarya Das

HpS - You really have to investigate Srila Prabhupada. I investigated Hansadutta Prabhu for years and when he said, "Prabhupada said...", I knew how to take it. I heard from Prabhupada's lips that he would never die but live forever in his books. I tried it and experienced it.

Ultimately we can't understand anything unless the Paramatma enlivens us to do so. The soul has an innate ability to know. Sat CIT Ananda. So when hear more and more from the right source we can experience Krsna directly, like seeing better through a pair of glasses over our eyes.

Red highlight: Prabhupada is SO, SO, insistent that we speak in Parampara, no? It occurs again and again and again in his books, no?     So, if we know him and know that he does not concoct things then the conclusion is that he received this from Bhakti-siddhanta Sarasvati and that BSS received it from GKDB and ... Krsna. Is O.K.?

A lot of citations above. To our limited brain we have to take them one at a time and in priority. Do you get tangible result from your morning service? Getting up for Brahma-muhurta?    If yes, then that is a gift from Srila Prabhupada, no?

Initiations - more then one from different gurus

8 years, 7 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A

Initiations - more then one from different gurus

 

CC Antya 7.148


vallabha-bhaṭṭera haya vātsalya-upāsana
bāla-gopāla-mantre teṅho karena sevana

Word for word: 

vallabha-bhaṭṭera — of Vallabha Bhaṭṭa; haya — there is; vātsalyaupāsana — worship as a parent; bāla-gopāla-mantre — with the mantra of Bāla-gopāla, child Kṛṣṇa; teṅho — he; karena — practices; sevana — worship.

Translation: 

Vallabha Bhaṭṭa was accustomed to worshiping the Lord as child Kṛṣṇa. Therefore he had been initiated into the Bāla-gopāla mantra and was thus worshiping the Lord.

 

CC Antya 7.149


paṇḍitera sane tāra mana phiri’ gela
kiśora-gopāla-upāsanāya mana dila

Word for word: 

paṇḍitera sane — in the association of Gadādhara Paṇḍita; tāra — his; mana — mind; phiri’ gela — became converted; kiśora-gopāla — of Kṛṣṇa as a young boy; upāsanāya — to the worship; mana dila — he gave his mind.

Translation: 

In the association of Gadādhara Paṇḍita, his mind was converted, and he dedicated his mind to worshiping Kiśora-gopāla, Kṛṣṇa as a young boy.

 

CC Antya 7.150


paṇḍitera ṭhāñi cāhe mantrādi śikhite
paṇḍita kahe, — “ei karma nahe āmā haite

Word for word: 

paṇḍitera ṭhāñi — from Gadādhara Paṇḍita; cāhe — wanted; mantra-ādi śikhite — to be initiated; paṇḍita kahe — Gadādhara Paṇḍita said; ei karma — this work; nahe āmā haite — is not possible for me.

Translation: 

Vallabha Bhaṭṭa wanted to be initiated by Gadādhara Paṇḍita, but Gadādhara Paṇḍita refused, saying, “The work of acting as a spiritual master is not possible for me.

 

CC Antya 7.171


tāhāṅi vallabha-bhaṭṭa prabhura ājñā laila
paṇḍita-ṭhāñi pūrva-prārthita saba siddhi haila

Word for word: 

tāhāṅi — there; vallabha-bhaṭṭa — Vallabha Bhaṭṭa; prabhura ājñā — the permission of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu; laila — took; paṇḍita-ṭhāñi — from Gadādhara Paṇḍita; pūrva-prārthita — as previously petitioned; saba siddhi haila — everything was perfectly executed.

Translation: 

There Vallabha Bhaṭṭa took permission from Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and his desire to be initiated by Gadādhara Paṇḍita was thus fulfilled.

~~~

 

Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

 

Looks Vallabha Bhatta was already initiated (whatever that meant at that period and in that context) and he wanted another initiation, from different guru. His initiations are in a connection to a mantra.

Would that mean that it was (is) bonafide to have more than one initiation, and also more then one initiation from different gurus. Those initiations spoken here do not seem like we have today in ISKCON as 1st, 2nd, sannyasa.

I understand that today in ISKCON it is possible to have 1st from one guru, 2nd from another, and sannyasa initiation from another guru. Is this what is happening here with Valllabha Bhatta? To me it looks it is in connection to mantras given according to what form of Lord Krsna is worshiped.

Thank you.

 

Your servant Namacarya Das

 

HpS - Hare Krsna.  When I read this it was a little confusing to me also. Usually "Intiation" as far as we understand it meant, "second intitiation", and that is when a confidential Mantra is given, so the Guru is call the "Mantra-guru". At times.   Srila Prabhupada is very explicit in the first chapte of CC, no?  Only one Diksa guru. So, I guess he was changing his Sampradaya. I was intiated as a Christian, but took intiation as a Gaudiya Vaisnava with the full blessings of Lord Jesus Christ as far as I know. That's all we know, but as we go on doing practical service then all these things will become practically clear. Are becoming practically clear.  Vallabha acharya is a rather special case. He left later and became Acharya in the Nimbarka Sampradya in Gurujurat, Pusti-marg, no?

HARE KRISHNA

8 years, 7 months ago by raktak in Personal Sadhana Reports

Respected Guru Maharaj

Please accept my humble obeisances.  All glories to Srila Prabhupad.

I am now in Sriganganagar, here in Internet cafe.  I read most of the stuff on monkeywarrior page, jaya.

I attended Silky's wedding ceremony, it went very well, as you had given your blessings in the beginning when I informed you that I am going for wedding. Children are happy.  Now, I go to Fazilka tomorrow to see big Hanumaan temple and to Ludhiana and then to Vrindavan from 24th Nov to 27th, and then, we fly back to Brisbane. While coming to India, on the way, I visited Kualalumpur temple and we are going to do the same thing on the way back.  I also met with our new god-brother Janardan Hari Das from New Govardhan while I was in Brisbane.

HpS - Jaya!   We remember Silky when she was three feet tall.    Our respects to everyone in your travels.   You say, "We", is A.Priya Devi Dasi et al with you?

While in Brisbane, we did some program in someone's house and 20 copies of Gita were distributed

Everything is going on Ok, 16 rounds done. Please bless us that we take full spiritual benefit of staying in holy dham Vrindavan and do not commit any offense there, thanks a lot.

yours servant,

Raktak Das

HpS - and are you going to take to Vanaprastha and then Sannyasa life?

Sankirtan

8 years, 7 months ago by Gadai in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaj, reciba mis respetuosas reverencias una y otra vez.

HpS - ASA --- Hare Krsna.  Please accept ours even more.

Estuvimos de viaje por Arequipa, Puno y Lima, aconpañando en Sankirtan a Maharaj Maha Vishnu y los Harinan Ruci, tuvimos una bonita experiencia con la asosiación de estas grandes almas.

HpS - Jaya!

Nuestro Sankirtan fue de 287 libros distribuidos entre grandes y pequeños. Esperamos aumentar nuestra distribución de libros y poder participar de la maratón de diciembre en Perú.

ASA - Libros, libros, libros.

Nuestro Sadhana marcha regular, Mangal Artik 5 am, 16 rondas de Japa, 4 principios, claro como siempre luchando con nuestra asquerosa mente, lectura de Bhagavad - Gita.

Bueno Guru Maharaj me despido Hare Krsna!!!

Gadai Gauranga Das

ASA - Esperamos La Marathon estaba un oportunidad encontrar muchas nuevas personas quien puede ayudar incrementar su distribuccion de libros!  Por favor unas noticias durante del Marathon de personas quien encuentran, tipo de libros estaba distribuyendo.

Bhakta Anibal

8 years, 7 months ago by Bhakta anibal in Personal Sadhana Reports

Dear Maharaj Hanumat-presaka Swami.

Hare Krsna, my name is Anibal, we met each other in the congress at the outskirts of Santiago, Chile last year. I asked you some foolish questions that were of no relevance to the congress’ topic, but I remember many of your answers and instructions. I´m a student and an addict mrdanga player.

I’m also very passionate for music and my carrier [career ?], always trying ( naturally) to meditate while playing and studying. Meanwhile I keep my sadhana straight, all thoughts flow like a perfect wave. Nonetheless, it’s really easy for me to fall into temptations, so I’m working on it. Well, I hope to keep in touch with you Maharaj and helping you, prabhupada and my soul. My most humble obvidences [obeisances].

HpS - ASA - Awwwk!   We don't remember talking to you. You should have written sooner or something. We are like a half deaf, 70-year old donkey, but please use us as you can. Take the time to make nice offerings of food to Krsna and then take the Prasadam. Then it will be easier to avoid all other temptations to stupidity.