oh about Swami Vivekananda

8 years ago by Nanuk in Special Category A

PAMHO :) , I copy a little text here:

from here: https://swarajyamag.com/books/the-connection-between-vivekananda-tesla-and-the-akashic-field

Now to Tesla’s connection with Vivekananda: It appears the actress Sarah Bernhardt introduced them to each other at a party she had thrown. This is what Vivekananda had to say of that meeting in a letter dated February 13, 1896:

Mr. Tesla was charmed to hear about the Vedantic prana and akasha and the kalpas. He thinks he can demonstrate mathematically that force and matter are reducible to potential energy. I am to go to see him next week to get this mathematical demonstration. In that case Vedantic cosmology will be placed on the surest of foundations. I clearly see their perfect union with modern science, and the elucidation of one will be followed by that of the other.

Tesla was unable to show the equivalence of mass and energy. But the search for a relationship between the two hung in the air and as we know the equation E=mc2 was published just a few years afterwards, first by the Italian, Olinto de Pretto, in 1903 and Albert Einstein in 1905.

(NH--  : This is an inverted idea in Keppean physics, speed of light is not constant + no two bodies collide with the energy of their movement only, but they actually have force fields of their own, so it is in every way erroneous and not exact at all :) .)

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In any event, Tesla, in his search of the akashic field, was looking for something more than the conversion of matter into energy. His objective was to harness the primal energy within space itself for mankind’s benefit.

In a posthumously published article called Man’s Greatest Achievement, which was written in 1907, Tesla wrote about the use of akasha and prana thus:

 Long ago… [mankind] recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena. The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance.

So what are prana and akasha that Vivekananda and Tesla wrote about? The prāṇa in Vedanta is the vital force of life, and the ākāśa is the element often translated as ether from which the other elements emerge.

Prana is more than breath; it is the subtle energy that guides the processes of the body. Modern medical science may not accept it, but the ability of the sadhus living in the upper reaches of the Himalayas in winter, or a modern man like Wim Hof in climbing 22,000 feet of Mount Everest in nothing but shorts and shoes shows it’s working.

The Chāndogya Upaniṣad says this of the relationship between the elements of the universe:

From this Self (Atman), ākāśa arose; from ākāśa air; from air fire; from fire water; from water the earth.

In the Śānti Parva of the Mahābhārata, the sequence of dissolution of the physical universe is as follows:

Under extreme heat, earth becomes water, then fire, then wind, then ākāśa, then space, then mind, then time, then energy, and finally universal consciousness.

The fact that energy can be generated from primordial ether (akasha) is a fundamental tenet in the Vedas, and, of course, akasha also generates other elements. Much before the mass to energy transformation became established physics, such transformations were a part of Indian cosmology. Vivekananda spoke not only about it but also how the mind through prana can do things that are outside the pale of known science.

More recently, quantum physics has shown that the vacuum state is associated with a zero-point energy, and this zero-point energy has measurable effects. Indeed the vacuum is teeming with creation and destruction of particles.

At another end of the subject, the idea of an akashic field as the medium of consciousness has caught some peoples’ attention. Amongst them is the Hungarian scientist Ervin László whose 2004 book Science and the Akashic Field: An Integral Theory of Everything posits a field of information as the substance of the cosmos.

László’s speculations go counter to the Vedic view. Although Vedanta and the Vaiśeṣika postulate the field of ākāśa, it cannot be the field that carries consciousness. Consciousness is not an entity like other fields of physics because if it were so then the equations of physics will be incomplete. Physics as we know it can only be about inert objects and not the experiencing self.

Both Vivekananda and Tesla were hoping for a mutual confirmation of Vedanta and physics. But time was not ripe for it 120 years ago for physics was yet to bring in observers into the picture as it was to do thirty years after their encounter through the framework of quantum mechanics.

Now with the understanding of the zero-point energy of the vacuum and of the cognitive system through the discipline of neuroscience, we may be much closer to explaining the interplay of prana and akasha and the sense in which they correspond to established scientific concepts.

Hare Krishna, let the earthquake thunder and lightning lay in perfect balance, otherwise it would be hard to be only in so called material world, such ghastly thing

HpS - ASA -- It is a little too specific knowledge, out of our specific area. We have been working on Carl Jung community. Some approach the elephant from the back some from the ears.

We always take BG Chapter 7, bhumir apo 'nal vayu.... as the fundamental description and then go to SB Canto Two, Brahma's decription, then Canto Four, Maitreya to Vidura, then Kapila to Kunti.... Canto Five describes the Lokas which we understand as being perceived by different ways of conditioning from the five gross and three subtle elements. Of course, the varieties are limited as different species.

Maharaja

8 years ago by Nanuk in Special Category A

Please accept my humble obeisances.

The version of Ralph Ring is that before that happening mentioned in wikipedia about Otis T. Carr, they did fly with Otc-x1 which was controlled with some kind of big quartz he says and light and somehow like that it was controlled, by the clear mind, or good mind, and actually there is witnesses also about the saucer, when the engineering crew all flew and picked up some sticks and stones from the place.

There were 2 witnesses, and they were police, it is said. http://projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html     anyhow, utron is genious form. That link tells also that there were aboard 3 engineers when they say they flew it ten miles.

Ralph Ring says that Otis said to them that tomorrow they gonna put lights and things on it and fly it in public, as a public demonstration. But then just day before it, there came government, or army, and took all.

So Maharaja my question is, how he could have flewn that then? And how he could have paid the investors back? This is in controversy with your letter before, where it was said that demons, or like they are in 10th canto, uncivilized people explains Srila Prabhupada, tries in every way keep that planetarium down. And it would be very very childish to believe that they wouldn't use every way possible, not least the wikipedia.

Actually those are very good weapons for their fake histories. Maharaja you really don't have to answer to this publicly. this is just, for me, the only way to get contact. I printed your pictures and also picture of, well I put it here. Hare Krishna

P.S. They did exactly same to Tesla but he was too famous and rich already to be forgotten wholly, because of AC. this is just me, the colourfull snail

HpS - ASA

Hare Krsna!!

I don't remember that I said anything that would contradict what you said. Maybe I sent that quote from the Bhagavatam about Lord Buddha fighting with atheists who were flying to different planets. How they do that and if it requires a change in body also is another thing, but that is from a different Kali-yuga, says so in the purport, but... the principle of inter-planetary travel is possible in Kali-yuga, says there.

Mental chanting

hare krsna maharaj.pamho.AGTSP.

i realized that when i chant internally /mentally. I can feel my heart also moving with mantra. But when i use my jaw i can dont feel anything in heart moreover my mind is full of thoughts. 

is it ok to chant with paw and mind?

HpS - From what we have heard the tongue and jaw should be moving for at least the 16-rounds. NOI 7. In the beginning maybe no nectar but following the way of the Acharya the sweetness will come. Of course, always chant as much as you can anyway you can after or before the 16-formal rounds.

parrot chanter

Report about educational-admistrative Lima issue (isvari dd)

Hare Krsna Dear Maharaja,

PAMHO. AGTSP!.

I want your spiritual energy to increase.

ASA - King Kong of the Spiritual World!

With regard to educational-administrative issues I inform you the following:

1.- Since last year was talking about changes in BS Administrator, then you resigned BS Examiner and then had to find a new pair: Examiner-Administrator.

It began to make proposals from the month of October 2016, but there everything was stopped.

Although it is true the initiative was born of Nimsar, this subject ended up causing a great problem within Nimsar.

Many anarthas appeared.

2.-This time was passing and this task is not defined you also manifest in some letters that there must be seriousness in order to organize courses if we want to work under the care of ASA.

Lad also expressed concern (he is giving courses). We was decided that the proposal should be sent to the National Board: Mathuresh -Candramukhi dd (examiner-adminstrador).

3.- Together with the proposal will send a request for approval of potential teachers to work with ASA.

4.-My collaboration in this, is to take care of the formalities. So I would send the letter of proposal to the National Board.

I decided to first discuss this proposal with the board of wilson (especially with Ganga dd and Yamunesvara d) to know their opinion.

Already lad had commented on this from Chosica authorities and they agreed.

5.-From the conversation with Ganga dd, conclude what follows:

-Wilson's board according to Mathuresh -CMDD

- List of teachers to work with ASA (Lad, Cmdd, Lilasakti dd, Abhinanda d, Isvari dd, Yugala dd). They agreed.

_Ganga dd inquires how would the organization of Asa? With whom they will work?.

(Before asking me this, she clarifies that she does not want anything from Nimsar because she does not have confidence)

Seeing this, I asked some questions and then proposed the following:

A.-The group ASA-Peru would have as authority to SSHPS and to the National Board.

B.-There will be no posts of President, neither secretary nor treasurer, there will be only coordinators of areas:

Lad coordinator of academic material

Cmdd course coordinator

Isvari coordinator of procedures and mediation before the National Board.

C.-Each teacher will give a report of his students to his local board and National Board.

D.-Programs is coordinated with National Board.

A Ganga dd thought this proposal optimum. She asked me to send the written proposal of Examiner-administrator and ASA-Peru and she submits it to the National Board to discuss the issue when present Mathuresh d (20-23 May).

6.-Communicate all this to Lad, but he does not agree to send anything to Wilson's Board but go directly to National Board and talk to Mathuresh d and this is on the recommendation of his authority.

The fact is that my authority is Ganga dd and she asked me something different than what Lad says.

On the other hand the National Board, not only Chosica, but also Wilson, does not explain the topic and talk to them is reckless. We need the blessings of both Mathuresh and National Board.

7.-The best thing for me is that we only send proposals and that the Board decides, if they want to accept the proposal we send or the proposal of Yugala (Mathuresh-Rohini dd) or another, that they see, if they take a good or bad Decision that is their responsibility.

Sri Nrsimhadeva protect you

Ys and spiritual niece

Isvari d

HpS - ASA --  Hare Krsna, Prabhu!  AGTSP...  paoho.  Thank you for all these efforts!    We discussed by telephone with you, Yugala, CMDD, LAD this mornnig and our suggestion is that anybody who is interested in these formal educational programs in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador arrange meetings with Mathuresa Das and then ourselves and then the National Council and then the local Temples etc.

So, first lets have some discussion with Mathuresa Das. In any case we can all continue meeting on Startmeeting and when we meet while traveling and even have Diplomas from ASA-Nashville.

Jagamojan Das

Hare Krisna Mi querido Guru Deva Hanumat Presaka Maharaja espero que se encuentre bien de salud Todas las Glorias a Srla Prabhupada.

ASA - Jaya!!!

Como sabe sigo en la Eco Aldea Madre Tierra haber si se puede comprar por la Misericordia de Krisna  y realizar un proyecto donde ocupar a los devotos.

Intentando ser su sirviente Jagamohan Das

ASA - Que pasa con la arboles de frutas?

Reporte 3 2017

Por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias..
Todas las glorias a Sri Sri Guru y Gauranga
Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada
Todas las glorias a los Vaisnavas reunidos

HpS - ASA -- Hare Krsna!

Respondiendo a su pregunta, este cuerpo burro tiene 26 años de edad.. esperamos ocuparlo en servicio hasta que sea inservible y debamos abandonarlo... estoy muy agradecido maharaj, hoy por primera vez pude ingresar a las charlas que usted da por startmeeting, hoy fue un nectar mas para el corazón. como estoy en el templo, puedo ingresar solamente 30 minutos, pero eso es suficiente para continuar con el nectar del programa matutino... hoy el cuerpo está un poco enfermo pero de todo se puede aprender, y este cuerpo es miserable... a veces me pregunto cómo será estar en nuestro cuerpo espiritual original...
hace un tiempo atrás me comprometí a estudiar el Upadesamrta lentamente y cada vez que le envíe reportes le comentare algunas realizaciones o vivencias respecto al libro... estoy intentando llevar sus enseñanzas a la práctica, hoy le comentare los aprendizajes que he comprendido hasta ahora del texto dos:

- Aquí se describen las actividades que arruinan nuestro servicio devocional, en relación a ello lo que más me causa dificultades es que frecuentemente hablo innecesariamente sobre temas mundanos y escucho de ello también. Es algo muy místico porque Krishna me permite entender como la mente se desvía de sus pies de loto con temas que no se relacionan a sus glorias.. entonces, tengo el deseo de mejorar.. pero a la vez se que mi realidad ahora es que voluntariamente arruino mi servicio devocional.. esta semana tomare el desafio de seguir esta instrucción de no hablar sobre temas mundanos...
le comento que llevo un cuaderno con apuntes y tambien he comprendido muchos asuntos pero prefiero escribir poco para no extender demasiado los mensajes. ese libro tiene tanta misericordia que tan solo leerlo es paz para la mente..

estamos esperando poder servirlo cuando nos visite en chile maharaj, le agradezco nuevamente todo su esfuerzo en la predica y todas las enseñanzas que me ha entregado, por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias. bhakta martin.

ASA -- Gracias!    Gracias!!  26-anyo y aun viviendo!!

Vivir como somos en el presento eterno. Todo el mundo esta aqui. Solamente tenemos que arrelegar cosas como eso es el Rasa-sthali, sito de Rasa-lila, y va a manifestar Radha y Krsna!

Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna!!

Como esta el salon de los deidades en Santiago??