DTC Tu(11) - Jung Dialog

Hare Krsna, Bwanas and Bwanis!
AGTSP!!!!!  Paoho...    Follows our letter to the Jung, Kundalini Yoga, Peru Symposium, circle:

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya!

Esteemed Psychologists, Philosophers, Psychiatrists, Historians et al.
We salute you from Monterrey, Mexico. We came here for a traditional boat festival, Jala-yatra, and we are leaving for a mountain excursion with about 45-members in 1-1/2 hours. It is 6.310AM.

We were contemplating Dr. Eduardo's comments after the 1st Jung lecture, about the necessity of not dumping our human habits such as smoking and becoming too spiritual.

Then we did our regulated reading, this 2nd lecture on Kundalini Yoga, and it seems to address very much Dr. Eduardo's concern.

We have to translate some of the terms that Jung uses, such as impersonal consciousness, free from ego, to match our Bhagavata model, but he seems to be talking about the same levels of evolution of consciousness.

Earlier he was talking about sthula, suksma and para bodies, and said the sthula and suksma were understandable to him, but the para was a 'mist'. We would feel that by a little effort in this Bhagavata tradition, yoga, under able guidance we can have some experience of these higher chakras and the mist would begin to disappear. Of course this para plane can be experienced by so many methods.

Who agrees with Dr. Jung's realization of what is happening as described in the evolution of Kundalini to different levels?

As I said above, his realization seems to be pretty much direct experience of what he is describing so far if looked at from the Bhagavata description.

I would try to give a simple response to Dr. Eduardo's comments that seem to be discussed here by Dr. Jung's also, that we should not artificially try to jump up, but experience properly why we smoke at our level, but as we evolve, then the smoking is seen in it's subtle, more pure, more delightful, less contaminating form.

What are contaminations? The first I would say is death. Death is an unnatural thing for us. We should not lose consciousness when we are in the state between bodies, and in the next physical body we should have access to previous projects, knowledge, associates.

I would say that the Kundalini Yoga Sutras that Jung was dealing with, were probably not practical for Europeans at that time and neither now, but it is possible to develop a Yoga or Religion which would allow the Nation of Peru to progressively rise up, for the 'gods' to again become active.

Of course, we write this with a lot of smiles and hope for responses from a lot of people.

We are humbly including Prof. Dr. Samaresh Bandyopadhyay in this dialog. He is our old friend, adviser and very senior professor from Calcutta University. I would also suggest that at some point we can try to get in contact with Shonu Shyamdasani. He has such a ton of Jung's letters, writings etc. like these Kundalini lectures and related documents, that can each be researched and published. Specifically, for us Jung's trip to India seems of the most value for our efforts to create a bridge between the Orient and the Occident, and so I would hope to influence him to turn his considerable academic attention those days rather than many other topics.

Thank you.

See you in a few days.