indian monkey and horse

Hare Krsna Maharaj,
Pamho, Agtsp

Hello to UG, TB and  BW

ASA -  E=M*C*C, Whoop! Whoop!,  Oink!   Oink!

We hope you all are progressing in Lord Chaitanya Sankirtana.

We deliberatlely did not write to you {HpS and ASA associates] as most our issues are related to dark well and perennial challenges related to it.  there was no relevant news of sankirtana. we are working on it. we are trying to chant 16 rounds daily, morning prayers, reading, 4 rounds and house holder duties in balance way (krsna is helping us a lot)

we are reporting this to  Professor Huber Robinson as there is no better person than him in matter of psychology.
Professor , we went pillbuster and clinical pscychologist  {CP} regarding our anger and controlling problem.

they have diagnosed us  Obsessive complusion disorder [OCD] and problem due to emotion injuries. (on the basis of Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory ® -2 (MMPI ® -2))

ASA - Wow!     When I took a test like that I would feel very proud: Look, I am crazy! I need special attention. (Of course, some of this stuff is actually true and helpful (but also sometimes devotees can surpass all this easily, no?))

they say our sub-conscious is craving for affection (inference from Online  Rorschach  Test http://theinkblot.com/ ). Harsh says his conscious mind says he does not need affection. CP says thats the struggle b/w sub conscious and conscious mind.

HpS - Jung, Prabhupada, both say that your sub-conscious mind is very accessible during Brahma muhurta and you can make it more conscious. Sounds like a good analysis, but I would confirm it by our Yoga of B-muhurta, Japa.

due  [OCD]  to we got finicky about things.

we are going to continue treatment optimize the problme of OCD and emotional injuries
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we also met a nice devotee [vrindavan das [email protected] ) who works on temperament identification (on basis of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_temperaments)  since  september. he also identified our temperament (based on observation not any test) as majorily as Melancholy perfectionist (64%) , Powerful choleric (26%) and peaceful Phlegmatic(10%).

we applied this perfectionist and powerful temperament in our married life. and have crushed emotions of our wife who is having different temparament ratios.

he asked us to relax our standards, increase our indulgence in sense gratification ( resorts, food, sex etc) to satisfy/ heal our relationship with wife.


because his finding is that Harsh is not peaceful when there is unrest in home.

HpS - God!  Illicit sex!!???       That's only, always, going to increase the hell.   Of course, SB 1.11.31-32, type Grhasta "sex" is O.K. Nice.  Buy your wife candy or flowers, no?   Prabhupada says that embracing between husband and wife is natural. But illict sex only makes everyone feel dirty and cheated afterwords.   We don't have a sub-conscious desire to become meat, fish or eggs. We have a sub-conscious desire to become immortal energy angels!
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practically we see we are tied up in battle between cognition v/s affect. should be v/s want to be.
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our only hope is NOI preface
""In all spiritual affairs, one’s first duty is to control his mind and senses. Unless one controls his mind and senses, one cannot make any advancement in spiritual life. Everyone within this material world is engrossed in the modes of passion and ignorance. One must promote himself to the platform of goodness, sattva-guṇa, by following the instructions of Rūpa Gosvāmī, and then everything concerning how to make further progress will be revealed.""

till we reach sattva guna we would be needing your help a lot esp in matter of satisfying the SPOG.

regards,

Harsh born in In India with 

human body  & ( monkey and horse mind)

HpS - My experience is that it always helps to chant Hare Krsna right in the middle of the strange problems. Then Krsna can give a little good intelligence and we can move up.
One VERY good psychological survey showed that Hare Krsna males are 100 times more likely to be Compulsive personalities that normal people. Do you fold your shirts and sort them into different categories?

We do.

But we want pharmacists, doctors others to be compulsive personalities. O.K. Is not a bad trait. Just have to purify it. Learn when to relax. We still have to struggle with this at 67 years old. Ha!  Ha!   Ha!    Expect rapid progress but be patient that if this is a deep root it may take even more than one life to extract it.   ....  but....   the effort is eternal!

In general, sounds great you psycho-therapy if you just keep a perspective of Srila Prabhupada's lessons. See you in a few days.