Kozyrev - Gravity and Poison

6 years, 8 months ago by Nanuk in Special Category B

PAMHO!! It is said that from Kozyrev's work they did in Soviet union telescopes, that used scalar energy, to see the much more actual place of stars. As scalar energy moves almost infinite times faster than light. I did put something into http://akasha-plane.weebly.com/gravity.html :

Space that is curved? “Wait…isn’t space supposed to be empty?” you ask. How can you curve something that is empty? As we can see, the significant problem in visualizing Einstein’s gravity model is with the word “curve”, as this is something that a flat, elastic sheet would do.
Indeed, most attempts to visualize Einstein’s results picture planets as if they were weights that were depressing an imaginary flat rubber sheet that is stretched out in space as the “fabric” of space-time. An object such as a comet or asteroid simply follows the geometry of the sheet as it moves towards the Earth.
The problem with this model is that any curvature of space-time would need to be moving in towards a spherical object from all directions, not just a flat plane. And furthermore, one still requires a force of gravity to pull a weight down into a flat rubber sheet. In a weightless space, the ball and the sheet would simply float around together.
In reality, the word “flowing” is far more precise than “curving,” since in Convergence III we have demonstrated that gravity is actually a form of aetheric energy that is constantly flowing into an object.

ASA [UG] - One place Srila Prabhupada, the Bhagavata, says that the planets are held in location by "wind ropes". The second of the five gross elements in Prana, Vayu, air, tactile force. A Karate guy can manipulate this. Narada Muni travels on air-waves. An electrical wire is a "tunnel" to electricity. So gravity we see as Prana, no?


The equations for gravity do not specify which direction it must flow in, simply that it exists as a force that is responsible for objects not flying away from the Earth’s surface. Such ideas can be traced to John Keely, Dr. Walter Russell and more recently Walter Wright with his well-established “Push Gravity” theory.
Once we establish that all force fields such as gravity and electromagnetism are simply different forms of aether/ZPE in motion,

UG - In the Vedic model we understand each element is a subset of the previous, so everything is Mahat-tattva, then all the five gross elements are subsets of aether, space.

then we have an active source for gravity and a straightforward reason for why it would exist. We see that every molecule in the entire body of a planet must be sustained by an ongoing in-flow of aetheric energy.
The same energy that is creating the Earth is also creating and flowing into us. We are then caught up in the gigantic current of the river of energy that streams into the Earth, much as mosquitoes get stuck to a screen window while the air blows right through the screen.
Our bodies cannot travel through solid matter, but the current of aetheric energy certainly can – and this is one of the many things that Keely, Tesla, Kozyrev and others demonstrated. A star or planet must continually draw energy from its environment in order to “stay alive.” Kozyrev had made very similar conclusions about our Sun back in the 1950s, concluding that stars acted as “machines that convert the flow of time into heat and light.”

ASA - Kapila: Time is the external manifestation of the Supersoul.   Got any "time" to "kill".

next one is from book telling about those videos I sent you, I guess Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati was very very right about the thing that the demons would try to prevent pulling the on switch of that prophetized 4 storied TOVP ship!! And why they destroy still Prabhupada's last pastimes with their lies:

GOALS OF THIS PRESENTATION

We recognize that in general the followers of Srila Prabhupada are not very well informed about the poison issue. There are many strong emotions invoked by this subject, so many will repress the topic and avoid becoming properly informed with the actual facts. Often it is assumed that the “poison theorists” have a secret agenda based on material considerations or are simply deranged, troubled individuals. Or it may be assumed that the “poison theory” has not been substantiated with real evidence. This is a shame because, as a reader of this presentation who carefully considers all the material herein will see, this issue is not a theory or conspiracy, but full of facts and evidence. So much so, one may note that the size of this presentation is voluminous; it is meant to provide all the relevant data in the poison issue to anyone interested to know.

The first goal is to comprehensively, honestly present all the evidence and facts in one place. This work is meant as an historical reference material. There is also a serious need to set the historical record straight in light of so much false propaganda and obfuscation from ISKCON leaders who hope to fend off full truth discovery in the matter. Our effort is called revisionism, which, according to Harry E Barnes, is bringing history into accord with the facts. Why would history and factual evidence be at odds? It is because institutions falsify the past to keep their membership loyal and subservient to their corruptions.

ASA - Arnold Toynbee, great historian, met Srila Prabhupada. As I remember he was asking very precise questions from Srila Prabhupada even about Indira Gandhi and Srila Prabhupada was answering with great enthusiasm like, "At last a man with half a brain in his head"! He said that there are three kinds of history: The half-truth, the distorted truth and the damn lie. When you have history that tells very accurately what happend, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, then it almost certain that you are dealing with category two or catergy three. If it is a history with many unanswered questions then probably it is the best we are going to get from history.

For us then a precise look at a poisoning theory is a lot of work and we see that more productive attitude is to accept simple evidence as it comes but focus on the living Prabhupada, "I will never die. I will live forever in my books", and from this we can see the quality of our institutional leaders and react accordingly.

This theme was also developed by George Orwell, as presented in his book 1984. As we sometimes have to wash our car of all the accumulated dirt, so we must clear up the lies and misconceptions which obscure the actual history and proper understanding of Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance pastimes.

Also this work is meant as a glorification of Srila Prabhupada. One may ask how this can be, and as an example, we see that Srila Prabhupada knew he was being poisoned and yet offered no protest, as understood from the recorded conversations themselves. Such an unselfish position, to accept the betrayal by his own disciples and the violence inflicted upon him without making any objection, is another display of His Divine Grace’s transcendental glories. This is comparable to the acceptance of crucifixion by Jesus Christ.

HpS -  Hmmm.   We lived with Hansadutta, Jayananda, Bhakti-svarupa Damodara Swami under many  circumstances and so have a good feel of how to evaluate what they said. Hansadutta said that he asked Prabhuapda to come back to Germany for a second visit, but Prabhupada answered that he could not go back again, because there were people there (outside of ISKCON?) who would kill him. He said that the Germans were materially the most intelligent race. P. N. Oaks says that Deutch land comes from Daitya land. So, Srila Prabhuapda was quite capable of protecting himself and on different occasions avoiding restrictiions by his disciples. Any of us would have done what he said and wisked him out of danger if he had asked.

We are not saying that he was not poisoned, but we are considering the method of investigation, its fruit and diversion from immediately profitable action with the living Prabhupada.

The basic goal is to establish the TRUTH of the circumstances surrounding Srila Prabhupada’s departure. Truth is an end in itself, always worthy and necessary.

HpS - Blllllawwp.    That is "scientific" view, no?   The first verse (2nd) of the Bhagavatam establishes that the highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all. So we base our cosmology on Ananda, not Cit. We start with why do we know rather than what we know. Why will always change what, no?

“Among the public, those who are more honest will not dislike, but rather respect our straightforwardness. If we just go on giving our message as it is, it will gradually be accepted for what it is.” (Srila Prabhupada)

Kill Guru Become Guru (Book One) Page 18 and 19

here is still something about Aindra Dasa and his book and death:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qplhtvMhvl0

new info on Bhakti Tirtha so called Swami too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKlh39xO08&t=78s

Hare Krishna. Maharaja, can you be trusted, I guess. But if not you would be in perfect position for back-stabbing, but then also money would be lost. That's how it goes with the new crypto-coins. HK

HpS - We are pretty trustworthy. We have an addiction to pnuts and bananas but it is under basic control and diminishing.  We like this article more than others you have written. It is more clear, esoteric and we can respond with our ideas.  We did not look at the links, so we cannot recommend of censor them according to our taste.  Thank you very much!   If see that our ideas as well as yours are meritorious then we hope the dialog continues.