Educational Peruvian Programs [and sincere devotion]

PAMHO AGTSP

Hare Krsna, Dear Gurudev

Here in Peru we have a very nice program with Baladeva Prabhu.

There are a lot people who are very satisfied and interested to take more courses. He made conflict resolution and mediation workshops and we are enthusiastic to organize more courses and other surprises.

Baladeva Prabhu told us that he has been trying of communicating with you and Ramgiridhari Prabhu writing to your and his e-mail address. However, he did not receive answers.

HpS - We never, never received one letter from Prabhuji!!!   I wrote to him a couple of times. I don't know if those got lost!   I do know that Ramagiridhari told me that he had answered one of Baladeva's letters and only heard that Baladeva Prabhu told him he would get back to him but he had some more things to do.

Jiva shakti sent letters to RGD and RGD told me that he answered twice with copies to me, and I never got them. This happens sometimes from India with other people I know also. That's why it is important to call by telephone also.  If we are very determined we can try to write to the person, call them and then try to communicate throught there associates.  I tried to do that in our efforts to connect with Vaisesika Das, but in the end we could not connect.

Maybe this is because we are not pure devotees. Maybe it is Krsna's desire. In any case, let's go ahead. Another Hispanomerica Education Symposium in Chile?

Besides, Jagat guru did not answer him about Chilean educational conference. I said him that he should write you to Monkey Warrior. Thank you for your patience. ss Abhinanda das

HpS - Yes!!!!   This is a good communication format!    Yes, Jagat-guru Prabhu and his associates send us news about working on the project, but it is not going ahead very strongly. I told them in August that they should fix the city, week, organizing team and basic content, and then publish it immediately. Then everyone knows what is happening and can make rough plans for their calendars. We still have not seen that.

That is O.K.

Maybe we will have another kind of program in Santiago at the end of January. We have our ticket. We will be there. Please don't think that I am saying these things critically because I think that I am doing better or am better than others. Honestly, we are just as disorganized and lazy and greedy from some perspectives as everybody else.
Externally we have a nice perspective: 16-nice rounds and 4-principles strictly. Of course, if we want to have a penetrating understanding of things then we have to penetrate more. Is a wife chaste? Well, she doesn't have sexual relations with any man but her religiously married husband ...  but ... she jokes with and touches other men, and contemplates "romantic affairs" with them.

So, at least let's be Madhyama adhikaris and follow Srila Prabhupada's external standard and then we can judge our individual devotion in detail from more advanced level later.
ISKCON Vaikuntha although maybe not ISKCON Goloka.

Look at Cc. Madhya 15.102 and the subsequent  verses.

Shall we have a symposium on these verses when we visit Peru?