Guru Tattva Inquiry / Latest Kapi Dhvaja

10 years, 7 months ago by jaynityananda in Hot Topics

Dear Gurudeva,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to our Srila Prabhupada!

I hope you are healthy and content.

           HpS - ASA -  AGTSP.  This is the material world!     Ooof.    We have diseases just like you. We are always being attacked by fear and anxiety, but we have some knowledge!  Jaya Srila Prabhupada!  Thank you for your letters.

I have an inquiry, because reading your remarks about guru-tattva left me with some questions. I wish to inquire for the good of all our readers. You mention that if a disciple does not chant his or her rounds, or fails to follow regulative principles, that you cannot act as diksa guru. I am not sure what this means, and i must admit this sounds heavy to me.

For example, many young mothers find themselves unable to chant 16 rounds in the first years of motherhood. My wife inquired with other devotees, and she was told that their gurus told them to chant as much as possible, similarly in the case of another girl who had a chronic disease. Does the door to the parampara then close, or what does it mean? How is diksa restored with the spiritual master? Does it happen as the disciple 'confesses', admits the situation to the spiritual master? Will you please enlighten me on these intricacies?

Please forgive me for my any indecencies in our dealings. I wish you a nice day.

Your insignificant servant,
Raghava Pandita dasa

         HpS - AGTSP . Paoho.  Thank you Pandita Das. Of course, it is good to get these things straight before initiation, but it is natural that we are going over the basics again and again. That's what I am doing!
Srila Prabhupada makes this point again and again and again in his books, letters etc:

"As already explained, one should not be idle but should be very enthusiastic about executing the regulative principles — tat-tat-karma-pravartana. Neglect of the regulative principles will destroy devotional service. In this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement there are four basic regulative principles, forbidding illicit sex, meat-eating, gambling and intoxication. A devotee must be very enthusiastic about following these principles. If he becomes slack in following any of them, his progress will certainly be checked. Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī therefore recommends, tat-tat-karma-pravartanāt: "One must strictly follow the regulative principles of vaidhī bhakti." In addition to these four prohibitions (yama), there are positive regulative principles (niyama), such as the daily chanting of sixteen rounds on japa-mālā beads. These regulative activities must be faithfully performed with enthusiasm. This is called tat-tat-karma-pravartana, or varied engagement in devotional service." NOI Three

So, there may be special circumstances. Jayapataka Maharaja was in a coma for months, but in general Krsna asks for this so He will give us facility to do this. Babys sleep a lot. So, if Mother's priority is to chant her rounds properly so her breast milk is nectar and not poison then she can do it nicely and it will be nectar being a Mother then.

For us the term Mataji is the same as the term Maharaja for a Sannyasi.

Some one else, Srila Prabhupada, Jayapataka Swami... may have a diferent position on this point. They maybe strong enough to hold onto a devotee who has become materiallly heavy from not doing Japa yajna. We aren't. We will fall in the water if we try.

We saw Hansadutta Das through his falldown. He said that it was because he tried to become the "Bhoktarama yajna tapasyam..." Supreme friend and stay as Guru for so many  Kanistha devotees.

"avasaya raksibe krsna.." Upadesamrta. Krsna has given me this service so He will certainly give me the strenght to do it.

Look at what people did in World War II. Our austerity is nothing, and it is guaranteed to help the other services in the best way possible.

Break the vows but want to get back on the path, O.K. we are Siksa guru, Patha-pradarsika-guru, Vartmana-pradarshika guru. We will work with you in the details to get it back together. You can have us as your Guru, but not as Diksa guru until you are situated properly again.

O.K?   If anyone asks we will tell them that you can explain it???  <img alt="smiley" src="http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/regular_smile.gif" title="smiley" />