hare krsna maharaj,pamho,agtsp,
pranam to Narsingh dev and Prahlad Maharaj,

In reply to http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/node/3373 and http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/node/3349.
you wrote that "you can't get a clear view on your VAD until you come to the platform of second initiation".

can you elaborate this second intiation platform and esp components of "morning program in the mode of goodness"

apart from this physical activities like related to 2nd intiation. are there any behavioural/psychological  components of second intiation platform.

             HpS - ASA -  Jaya.  AGTSP.  paoho.   Just finished Japa Joe.  It is 3.33AM, 13th Sep. Friday.  We are behind on the mail with the activity for this Symposium tomorrow morning.    Srila Prabhupada says that second initiation is an indication from the spiritual master that the devotees service is on the mode of goodness. kapila says that devotional service can be in modes of ignoracne passion or goodness. so when it is fixed in goodness then we can have real knowledge. of what my guna and karma are in this world. professional devotional service. can start br. service of deity worship.

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you asked :::Where in NOI does Prabhupada say that mangala arati is required.--http://vedabase.com/en/noi/3--In this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement we require everyone to rise early in the morning, by four A.M.,and attend maṅgala-ārati, or morning worship, then read Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, perform kīrtana, and so forth
--what is so forth ? in this text.

HpS - ASA - "and so forward".
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we are generally exhausted, in getting things in line...please forgive this ass/horse, while communicating with your Grace.
regards,
horse

                     ASA - Oink!