Hk pamho querido Guru Maharaja, respecto de los candidatos de segunda iniciación, comparto la siguiente reflexión, para ser tomada en cuenta por los candidatos.
Se toma la segunda iniciación por status?, por necesidad administrativa, por la cantidad de servicio, por cantidad de años en CK? ¿Por qué?
Si soy futuro candidato a segunda iniciación, y a la vez, he pasado por alto a otros que desde algún tiempo atrás, cantan los mantras…eso también debería tomarse en cuenta.
Un sabio dijo: Dale un puesto a alguien y vas a probar su carácter.
Observo en el carácter de algunos devotos neófitos que sólo consideran al Guru-Administrador-Deidad-adeptos. Eso me preocupa, porque como movimiento de prédica, la asociación es muy importante y la familia espiritual también. Mucha gente inspirada por los tratos entre la familia espiritual, acepta a un maestro espiritual o se aleja del movimiento. Pero si en la familia hay rencor, hipocresía…¿Snif!
En una clase un maestro explicó: A las personas que saludamos por primera vez es muy agradable esa experiencia, (pensé como en la distribución de libros en las calles)…porque no hay envidia...
No puedo hablar de mi experiencia con algunos de los candidatos a segunda, pues las escrituras mencionan que uno no debe protestar si se le ofende, si puedo mencionar de la frustración de persona que fueron maltratadas, no sólo hay maltratado cuando se le grita, se les golpea, se le desprestigia, sino cuando se le ignora.
De todos en el VAD, los brahmanas son los que más me atraen, por su cualidad de perdón, compasión, amor al prójimo, limpieza, etc. Falta mucho por purificar Gurudeva…
Trabajo desde los 16 años en muchas empresas, que me enseñaron que un verdadero líder delega y es feliz cuando los demás tienen su realización, éxito en su servicio. Krsna da el ejemplo, Él se siente más feliz cuando sus devotos son glorificados, que cuando a Él lo glorifican.
Así que espero que los futuros brahmanas no le sonrían sólo al Guru, al administrador, que muestren respeto debido por todos, sin distinción de ninguna clase. Por el bien de nuestro movimiento.
Gurudeva, por favor tengo una duda, un requisito para segunda iniciación es el BS, ¿Todos los candidatos reúnen ese requisito?
¡Todas la glorias a los discípulos de HpS! ¡A la virtuosa familia ASA!
¡Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!
Su hija que lo adora:
Yugala Kisora Dasi. (El exterminador, digo El Examinador)
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HK, Pamho, dear Guru Maharaja, regarding the second initiation candidates, I share the following reflection, to be taken into account by the candidates.
Is the second initiation taken by status?, by administrative necessity, by the amount of service, by number of years in CK? Why?
HpS - It is and indication from the Spiritual Master that the disciple has become fixed in the mode of goodness in their service. For Brahmans, Ksatriyas and higher class Vaisyas.🐄
If I am a future candidate for the second initiation, and at the same time, I have overlooked others who have been chanting the mantras for some time... that should also be taken into account.
HpS - No, if they are in China and we are in Paraguay. -[;0]/\___
A wise man said: Give someone a position and you will test his character.
Abraham Lincoln, but he suggested money and position.
I observe in the character of some neophyte devotees that they only consider the Guru-Administrator-Deity-adepts. That worries me, because as a preaching movement, the association is very important and the spiritual family too. Many people, inspired by dealings within the spiritual family, accept a spiritual teacher or walk away from the movement. But if there is rancor, hypocrisy in the family… Sniff!
HpS - Yes, but Srila Prabhupada is always sitting on his Vyasa asana ready to give association to friendly people.
In a class a teacher explained: For the people we greet for the first time, that experience is very pleasant, (I thought like in the distribution of books in the streets)...because there is no envy...
I cannot speak about my experience with some of the candidates for the second, because the scriptures mention that one should not protest if they are offended, if I can mention the frustration of people who were mistreated, not only are they mistreated when they are yelled at, they he hits them, he is discredited, but when he is ignored.
Of all in the VAD, the brahmanas are the ones that attract me the most, for their quality of forgiveness, compassion, love of neighbor, cleanliness, etc. Much remains to be purified Gurudeva...
I have been working since I was 16 years old in many companies, which taught me that a true leader delegates and is happy when others have their accomplishment, success in their service. Krsna gives the example, He feels happier when His devotees are glorified than when He is glorified.
So I hope that the future brahmanas will not smile only at the Guru, at the administrator, but will show due respect to everyone, without distinction of any kind. For the good of our movement.
Gurudeva, please I have a question, a requirement for second initiation is BS, do all candidates meet that requirement?
HpS - Not officially in ISKCON. Especially not for Vaisya type people. Karuna K. Das is giving them all the Brahminical test of 50-questions that supposed to have come from Sriman Harikesa Das yatra and must pass disciple course, and be following regulative principles for long time and up early ... Is initiation, beginning. Then....
All glories to the HpS disciples! To the virtuous ASA family!
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
His daughter who adores him:
Yugala Kisora Dasi. (The exterminator, I say The Examiner)
ASA - Thank you "E"... 🙂
What was the level of freedom of the "E" release from lust, anger and greed whe taking second initiation? Has made progress? Some faults still challenge?
