Dialog with a Gosh - Diksa Guru etc.

4 years, 3 months ago by hps in Special Category B

Thank you, Prabhu. It is long!  I only read part but it is nice   I am thinking that the fundamental problem is our definition of Diksa Guru. Within a few months after Srila Prabhupada's departure and the arrival of Sriman Hansadutta, our Zonal Guru, I took the position that there was too much emphasis on Diksa Guru by the Zonal Guru's and then the Rikviks. .. Skip all of our reassons except the definition of Diksa Guru in the Kiba vipra... verse that he is one who initiates according to the ritual. Then I am acting as a Diksa guru in the line of Srila Prabhupada. I am not claiming to be an Uttama Adhikari. Then it becomes easier. Ladies should not act as Diksa Guru just as they don't do fire sacrifices or wear Brahmanan threads, but if we get this Bhaktivedanta title going properly then they can be evaluated as Bhaktivedantin (Urmilla Devi Das) and that would give them some polite respect as Panditas and in a certain perspective Siksa Gurus. Then they could give advice to their followers which guru to accept, when to reject Him.  Of course, the title has to be appropriate and that is a challenge that the Board Of Examiners is STRUGGLING with.

By the way if, talking Australian, we go from He to S(he) and then include eunuchs then it become S(he)it. Which if you say it very fast immediately tells us were this one-gender world with one gender bathrooms is going.

It is Kali yuga, so accept the rain and put on a rain coat before you go out to preach. Of course, by the mercy of Gaura it can become as Satya yuga if people want and then Gaura will send a King like Maharaja Pariksit to stop the Kali yuga. Maybe he is a child in ISKCON now.

Homosexaulaity is a mental disease. O.K. Anybody can get it. If it is under control then they can be better devotees than I am. I have disciples who I can easily bow to as better devotees than me who are homosexuals who follow the four principles etc.  

What about the arrangement by Srila Prabhupada that ladies don't go on the altar in India but then we created a caste adjustment in Krsna Balarama Temple that they make all the garlands for the Deities. He allowed things in one zone but not another.

What about a decision by the GBC that ladies can be Diksa Gurus has decided by GBC vote on a one by one basis, especially if it is rare decision.

These are some of our thoughts on the matter. Thoughts from the Anjana Suta Academy.

Are you going to take Sannyasa soon?

When will you die? I will die in November 2024 and stop being an administrator at the latest by next year..

This computer is really, really slow, so I have to type without seeing the mistakes.

Your servants, HPS, TB, BW, UG et al.