Some last thoughts on guru stuff

13 years, 1 month ago by Bhakta Joe Blow

"the spiritual master's order should be taken as the prime duty of life. If one gets a bona fide spiritual master and acts according to his direction, then his perfection of life in Krsna consciousness is guaranteed."  Bg 18.57

 

 

"TRANSLATION: When all the sons of Pracinabarhi left home to execute austerities, they met Lord Siva, who, out of great mercy, instructed them about the Absolute Truth. All the sons of Pracinabarhi meditated upon the instructions, chanting and worshiping them with great care and attention.

PURPORT

It is clear that to perform austerities or penances, or, for that matter, any form of devotional service, one has to be guided by a spiritual master. Here it is clearly stated that the ten sons of Maharaja Pracinabarhi were favored by the appearance of Lord Siva, who, out of great kindness, gave them instructions regarding the execution of austerities. Lord Siva actually became the spiritual master of the ten sons, and in turn his disciples took his words so seriously that simply by meditating upon his instructions (dhyayantah) they became perfect. This is the secret of success. After being initiated and receiving the orders of the spiritual master, the disciple should unhesitatingly think about the instructions or orders of the spiritual master and should not allow himself to be disturbed by anything else. This is also the verdict of Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, who, while explaining a verse of Bhagavad-gita (vyavasayatmika buddhir ekeha kuru-nandana, Bg. 2.41), points out that the order of the spiritual master is the life substance of the disciple. The disciple should not consider whether he is going back home, back to Godhead; his first business should be to execute the order of his spiritual master. Thus a disciple should always meditate on the order of the spiritual master, and that is perfectional meditation. Not only should he meditate upon that order, but he should find out the means by which he can perfectly worship and execute it." SB 4.24.16

 

 

 

BJB:PAMHO AGTSP! Since I have been a devotee for many years already and have not ever been formally initiated yet, I have learned to become directly attached to Srila Prabhupada as the person I (as it says here) always meditate on and make his words my life and soul. If you do the initiation I would like to continue this. Is that ok with you?

 I ask this because I notice that in different circles of devotees that have been initiated by different guru's it seems that either the guru or the initiated devotee try to or has developed this mood directly with their initiator and not directly with Srila Prabhupada.  I feel this mood (as stated above in the 2 Prabhupada quotes) directly with Prabhupada and in you being the initiator I want it to only increase.

 

Thanks so much!

Bhakta Joe Blow

 

HpS - AGTSP  paoho.   Certainly.  Wouldn't have it any other way!  Krsna is the ultimate Guru, no? And as we advance we see Trnad apri sunicena... How everyone is his representative in different ways  So Srila Prabhupada is the Founder Acharya of ISKCON, somebody else is responsible for making decisions about printing books, somebody else is super inspiration and technical guru for us in our Sankirtana.  Drona acharya was the Astra guru for the Pandavas.  All of these Gurus know their relative positions and co-operate to serve each other.

If you want to take me in my little position as a representative from Prabhupada in this perspective then you can hear FROM MY LIPS that I heard FROM SRILA PRABHUPDA'S lips, that he would never die, he would live forever in his books.  Now people can here that FROM YOU LIPS!