ASA - AGTSP Paho --- Follows a letter from Bhakti PV, whom we formerly accepted as Prahlada-nrsmha Das. There are many many points in his letters that we could slowly one by one address but his response below and a similar letter to HpS in private has led us to the conclusion that we are incapable of serving him as an ISKCON Diksa guru. We are not Srila Prabhupada. We don't the strength of Prabhupada. When we discussed for long time about Guru-Disciple relation these things were clear to him and other devotees. Now we feel that things have gotten so far from that relation that it is best for us to formally end the relationship and hope that the devotee can make progress with the direct help of others. I have only read a little bit of the first part of the letter, so I don't know all of the content. As is our Blog system I could have read maybe the first part within the time constraints of this media and then responded and erased the rest with request for him to resubmit it as another part, but the many citations seem to have been posted as individual citations so it will take too long for us to edit.
O.K. We are right, you are wrong, we are God. I hope that isn't our mentality and of course we are open to discuss everything but we haven't strength or resources to do more than what we have done in this and the previous letter.
Thank you Bhakti PV, and other readers.
PAMHO AGTSP!
You say "we erased the following 27-pages of letters that you quoted because we feel that some of your passions are just to #@$% to put in print." First of all I submitted about 2 or so pages of quotes, NOT AS YOU SAY "referenced 27 pages of quotes" and they where all directly from Srila Prabhupada's books, letters and conversations, and are thus meant for the betterment of the world, and for those devotees claiming to be part of ISKCON to make as their life and soul. So it is quite inappropriate and offensive to Srila Prabhupada for you to say about the words of Srila Prabhupada "passions are just to #@$% to put in print Haw Haw Haw!".
In addition to this if your going to erase the stuff I submit to you and then post that edited version then what use is my posting it at all? why don't you just have as you say a Monodialoge with your self. no offense maharaja but really… You say "a dialog rather than a mono-log." Yes so this is what I was aiming for. But how can I do this when you delete my submissions? Isn't that indicative that you are the one having the mono-log?
you then say "What about the citation, "...sell without irritating...", huh? You didn't highlight that." That is just my point! If devotees are not selling books and are even told by their So-called ISKCON authorities to not sell books then where is the question of selling any books at all?
You say "what do you think about you following his example to improve things." Yes I try, but because I have strong fidelity to Srila Prabhupada and am not a blind follower of the blind GBC and actually follow Srila Prabhupada's orders, and do not support the bogus unauthorized changes to Srila Prabhupada's books I don't have the support that he has. But on the contrary I am criticized instead of made into some type of Hollywood movie star like him. But I would rather be criticized and keep my fidelity to Srila Prabhupada then compromise my principals and become some type of ISKCON movie star. If the GBC would start to follow Srila Prabhupada's orders and support Srila Prabhupada's original books that Prabhupada personally approved of and distributed, instead of demonize those same transcendental books, then I would have some standpoint to preach from, but as the situation is now where the blind GBC is condemning Srila Prabhupada's books, what can be done.
Srila Prabhupada clearly said:
Just like in lawbooks, there is some law made already. Whimsically you cannot, I mean to say, erase the words and put something that "It should be changed like this." That will not be accepted….So change means imperfect knowledge. No change means that is perfect knowledge. So we follow that no change policy. No, not that because I think I have become now advanced, I change this to that. That mean I am not advanced.
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.3.15 - Los Angeles, September 20, 1972)
Radha-vallabha: So we should just leave it exactly.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. You should not be more educated.
Radha-vallabha: He wasn't changing any of the words. He was just...
Prabhupada: Nothing of the... This of should be strictly forbidden.
Radha-vallabha: So no corrections. That makes it simple.
Prabhupada: They can divide the synonyms. That's all.
Radha-vallabha: Synonyms. So even...
Prabhupada: That is his tendency, to correct. That's very bad. He should not do that.
Radha-vallabha: So I'll just forget this, then.
Prabhupada: The system is: whatever authority has done, even there is mistake, it should be accepted.
Radha-vallabha: Oh.
Prabhupada: Asa-praya(?) [NOTE: should be - “arsha prayoga”. Arsha-prayoga is a Sanskrit word meaning complete acceptance of what is left by the authorities, as it is, without any change at all] That is ha... He should not become more learned than the authority. That is very bad habit....
Prabhupada: Why finish it? Whatever is done is done. No more....
Radha-vallabha: Well, now that this system of no corrections anywhere, that makes it very simple. Then he can't do anything. I don't think he wants to, either. It makes it more simple for him. It makes him very uncomfortable.
Prabhupada: No corrections.
(Conversation with Italian Woman with Translator - February 28, 1977, Mayapura)
Prabhupada: So you... What you are going... It is very serious situation. You write one letter that "Why you have made so many changes?" And whom to write? Who will care? All rascals are there. Write to Satsvarupa that "This is the position. They are doing anything and everything at their whim." The next printing should be again to the original way….
Prabhupada: So write them immediately that "The rascal editors, they are doing havoc…
Prabhupada: So what to do?…
Prabhupada: So you bring this to Satsvarupa. They cannot change anything….
Prabhupada: So on the whole, these dangerous things are going on. How to check it?…
Prabhupada: So they are doing very freely and dangerously.
(Conversation, "Rascal Editors," and Morning Talk - June 22, 1977, Vrndavana)
Please do not delete these Srila Prabhupada quotes! Let everyone know the truth!