Esteemed Devotees,

Paoho AGTSP.  How are you?   We are in Tandavika Prabhu's house for Saturday and Sunday. We are keeping pretty good standard. Working constantly in KC, now we have to intensify it to come up to the standard of other stronger devotees in ISKCON.

It is 2.21PM we have 21 of our 32 rounds done. We are on schedule. We will check our list of Things To Do, and check in with a few devotees.  Cell phone is free today, by the mercy of Caitanya-caritamrta Prabhu.

In checking the e-mail we have nice letter from one devotee who is disturbed by fall downs in ISKCON etc. So we have our edited answer to him following. We asked him to write to this Blog so we can all discuss these things efficiently.  Use pen-names if you feel shy to talk of stuf here with your regular name. Also, talk in general rather than individual details, on principles, more than individual detials in this Forum:

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Hare Krsna,

J a y a! Srila Prabhupada, Ki Jai. Please accept our humble obeisances. Thank you for the letter and fotos. <img alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" />

 We are in Tennessee until 25th then we go to Boise, San Jose, Houston, Mexico...

 Your letters and news are no distubance. So far I have been able to follow well Srila Prabhupada's basic program since even before the time of initiation. Beyond that I think I have not done such great things as many other devotees, so I have lots of room to improve.

Your news is honestly quite encouraging.

Of course, as always Srila Prabhupada is everyone in ISKCON's Guru, no? Right after Prabhupada left there was this development that the people named by Prabhupada to give initiation were now in the line between Prabhupada and the people newly joining ISKCON and they were the new "Founder Acharys" of their specific regions. I went through that phase personally with Hansadutta Prabhu in Berkeley. In any case, it was accepted by various people in various degrees, 0-100%, but within about 5-years or more it was rejected by mostly 80% as far as I can understand, especially as in the extreme case of Kirtanananda, who as I understand did not want people to read Srila Prabhupada's books, but rather only read his.

This is where I become confused.

Whether you, I, Guru-prasad Swami, Prabhavisnu Swami, Hansadutta, Maitreya Das, Ramabhadra Das, Svasa Das, Harivilasa Das, Lavanya-mangala Devi Das, fall down, we all still have very clear standard and example from Srila Prabhupada. If we call ourselves, "Prabhupada Disciples", that means, again as I understand, that we follow the four-regulative principles strictly and chant 16-enthusiastic rounds/day with out fail. Then of course, we advise, by our association inspire, others to do the same.

Is correct?

Of course, there are so many details, but that is the simple, practical situation as I have understood and as I understand Srila Prabhupada.

He chants his rounds, we chant our rounds, any body who wants to follow us following him, chants their rounds, anybody who wants to follow them chant their rounds . . . .

 . . . . We have twenty O.K. rounds done now. We've gone from 25/day to 32/day this year. Is very nice.  We can do better.

 Jaya!

Again, we don't want to molest your good self either, but for us it has been very clear for so very long. We have to chant 16 enthusiastic rounds and follow the four principles strictly.

If we don't do this we are not fully Prabhupada disciples directly or indirectly, formally initiated or not formally initiated.

We may be progressive and headed to the standard, but we are not at the standard, yet.

Krsna, personally will help us follow this standard because through Srila Prabhupada He has personally set it.

Unless we follow this standard, or are sincerely trying to go to this standard, we will honestly won't be able to understand much else about ISKCON. It can only be understood practically by devotional service to it's Founder Acharya.

Jaya!  Our fanatic ideas. <img alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" /><img alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" /><img alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" /><img alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" />

Can you write to our ASA Blog about this??!! So many people have the same comments and questions that we have and then we can all discuss it together there. You can use a pen-name if you want to, the Rationalist of Rome, <img alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" />, or whatever you feel comfortable with.

In any case, we are always glad to hear from you.

AGTSP

paoho... . . . You are very nice association for us.

Ur fallen servant,

Hanumatpresaka Swami